From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27578 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2022 02:49:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Jul 2022 02:49:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E46D40D55; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 12:49:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from nsstlmta16p.bpe.bigpond.com (nsstlmta16p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.16]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 375D240D54 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 12:49:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep16p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20220702024951.WXPF6569.nsstlfep16p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 12:49:51 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrudehgedgieefucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucegtddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehttddttddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepkeeiteejueeuhfefgeeuvdduieefvedugfevtdffkefhffejkefhuddtteehtefhnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtoheptghofhhfsehtuhhhshdrohhrgh X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.806) id 626F30680D2A8BD0 for coff@tuhs.org; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 12:49:50 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 2622nonL011335 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 12:49:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 2622noxx011332 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 12:49:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 12:49:49 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: Computer Old Farts Followers In-Reply-To: <20220702023502.GE11191@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: References: <180245D1-0DCD-4C2C-A26A-EF68578FD548@canb.auug.org.au> <20220701004118.GA22338@tau1.ceti.pl> <67e0d22c-e70b-e9bb-4614-eb1426bf2bd0@gmail.com> <20220702000828.GB32390@eureka.lemis.com> <20220702012641.GA84351@eureka.lemis.com> <20220702023502.GE11191@mcvoy.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID-Hash: UQN4PW67T5HQD6BQDH4GFRZCYBZ75BZN X-Message-ID-Hash: UQN4PW67T5HQD6BQDH4GFRZCYBZ75BZN X-MailFrom: dave@horsfall.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: Safelights (was: "9 skills our grandkids won't have") List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > I was a photography nerd in the 1980's and we used red lights. As nerdy > as I was, I remember those times with fond memories. Something special > about putting the paper in the mix and seeing the picture come out of > nowhere. And the power you had with dodging to bring what you wanted > into focus. Ah, dodging... Well I remember my early photo days in the late 60s (including developing my film in the wardrobe with a blanket over everything and fixing them with diluted vinegar). Then years later I discovered that my Uni had a photo lab replete with enlarger and glazer :-) Or taking your 110 film to the local chemist (and there'd better not be any "naughty" pics on them, otherwise you wouldn't get them back). And the yellow envelopes that came with every roll of Kodak colour slides (which no longer seem to be able to be processed; I have a roll with Halley's Comet on it). The youngsters these days wouldn't know what we're talking about, of course... -- Dave