* [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: The MGR window system and the Macintosh [not found] ` <3e226172-b395-f5c1-df2c-b383024a08df@bitsavers.org> @ 2022-08-05 13:33 ` Clem Cole 2022-08-05 14:55 ` Adam Thornton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Clem Cole @ 2022-08-05 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Al Kossow; +Cc: Computer Old Farts Followers [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1417 bytes --] This thread needs to move to COFF to continue - although my own story is 1/2 about BSD and the VAX. On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 10:15 PM Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote: > On 8/4/22 5:37 PM, Andrew Newman wrote: > > > There's a bunch of AED documentation online, including this... > > > > http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/aed/brochures/AED_767_Brochure_Jun82.pdf < > http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/aed/brochures/AED_767_Brochure_Jun82.pdf> > > I worked at AED before going to Apple, to stay sort of window related, the > last project I worked on at AED was > a VME and Qbus board set that was a complete color X terminal. > I had to chuckle when I read that. In the fall of '82 (I think), we got a Smalltalk VM from PARC at UCB. Dave Unger, Ken Keller, and I - plus some other folks in Patterson's systems seminar who's names I have since forgotten, wrote a VM in C for the VAX/BSD. We used an AED512 and Keller's graphics library from his thesis running over a 19.2 serial link as the output. About a month after we had it running, a couple of us got to visit PARC, and Peter Deutch showed us Smalltalk running on a Dorado. He ran his hand with the mouse across the screen opening and closing a bunch of windows randomly. We started laughing and Peter asked us what was so funny. We told him what he did would have taken at least 5 minutes to redisplay on BSD/VAX version. Clem ᐧ [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2767 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: The MGR window system and the Macintosh 2022-08-05 13:33 ` [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: The MGR window system and the Macintosh Clem Cole @ 2022-08-05 14:55 ` Adam Thornton 2022-08-05 22:16 ` Dave Horsfall 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Adam Thornton @ 2022-08-05 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Computer Old Farts Followers [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 237 bytes --] I'm fairly certain that in my very early Linux experiments (0.09, maybe?) I used mgr for a while because X only supported the Tseng ET-4000 (something like that) video card, which I didn't have. I remember finding it completely usable. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 294 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: The MGR window system and the Macintosh 2022-08-05 14:55 ` Adam Thornton @ 2022-08-05 22:16 ` Dave Horsfall 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Dave Horsfall @ 2022-08-05 22:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Computer Old Farts Followers [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 362 bytes --] On Fri, 5 Aug 2022, Adam Thornton wrote: > I'm fairly certain that in my very early Linux experiments (0.09, > maybe?) I used mgr for a while because X only supported the Tseng > ET-4000 (something like that) video card, which I didn't have. I > remember finding it completely usable. Tseng Labs as I recall, and it was extremely common. -- Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: The MGR window system and the Macintosh [not found] ` <CAEoi9W5OUdEz6Pp7aY7bWK_8_Xu+cM7asHEpqbVh5CtDorJYKA@mail.gmail.com> [not found] ` <566D98A2-B976-44A9-BD53-F10ECC7E24BC@iitbombay.org> @ 2022-08-09 1:46 ` Dave Horsfall 2022-08-09 1:50 ` Dave Horsfall 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Dave Horsfall @ 2022-08-09 1:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Computer Old Farts Followers; +Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society [ Moved to COFF ] On Thu, 4 Aug 2022, Dan Cross wrote: [...] > It wasn't particularly notable, or at least didn't leave much of an > impression; it presented a pretty "standard" (and primitive!) > graphical experience. I believe it was monochrome, with amber > on black. It also ran on the Applix 1616, an Aussie designed and built 68000 system; it was pretty much ahead of its time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applix_1616 -- Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: The MGR window system and the Macintosh 2022-08-09 1:46 ` Dave Horsfall @ 2022-08-09 1:50 ` Dave Horsfall 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Dave Horsfall @ 2022-08-09 1:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Computer Old Farts Followers; +Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society On Tue, 9 Aug 2022, Dave Horsfall wrote: > It also ran on the Applix 1616, an Aussie designed and built 68000 > system; it was pretty much ahead of its time. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applix_1616 Oops; I forgot the article describing how MGR was ported to said box: http://ericlindsay.com/applix/mgr.pdf -- Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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