From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19485 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2021 03:30:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Jul 2021 03:30:11 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A692C9C81D; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 13:30:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD67E9C7F1; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 13:29:58 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=tnetconsulting.net header.i=@tnetconsulting.net header.b="E1lLyoKx"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BB7EA9C7F1; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 13:29:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net [45.33.28.24]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 692219C7F0 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 13:29:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: from Contact-TNet-Consulting-Abuse-for-assistance by tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-3) with ESMTPSA id 16I3TNIM021977 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 22:29:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=tnetconsulting.net; s=2019; t=1626578964; bh=cZihs0KlGeuysU1eDj8Qc4qlx5MSjlo8UT0fXLBHlWQ=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Disposition: Content-Language:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Date:From: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:MIME-Version:References:Reply-To: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Sender:Subject:To: User-Agent; b=E1lLyoKxnbgDWfm0+xlQI/bmUTctOlhmAn861mAqQgWoILCa+gjn4hz6OaNGI0ETB ayANtcTc/kD5UVpFj89K9CtL+x1dbDwXM4d1L10MKf9becupcW8+FpZ+5n7Bo4M4TU Be4ZLQ66OVtHfFk7yPjGEJ8AlXioZ869oacAZ/b0= To: coff@minnie.tuhs.org References: <0afc6119-2900-1e72-618a-004549234cb2@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> Organization: TNet Consulting Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:29:30 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [COFF] [TUHS] 386BSD released X-BeenThere: coff@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Grant Taylor via COFF Reply-To: Grant Taylor Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0569479501037773893==" Errors-To: coff-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "COFF" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============0569479501037773893== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050003000504010707000003" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050003000504010707000003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/16/21 10:09 PM, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > You can try to argue that it should have a different etymology I'm not trying to argue anything. If anything, I'm sharing what I think is a different / an alternate=20 understanding. I view "open source" (case insensitive) as having two different=20 definitions, much like "hacker" has two almost diametrically opposed=20 definitions depending which community you're in. The dualism exists, and I believe that there's nothing that I can do to=20 change that. 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