From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88967 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pankaj Jangid Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: oauth to be required for gmail Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 03:24:30 +0000 Organization: J4D Network Message-ID: <0100016f832ea509-31c98128-ab0b-4bdf-aa1b-1aaa40255abc-000000@email.amazonses.com> References: <8736dkhx05.fsf@bobnewell.net> <877e2uvpve.fsf@gnus.org> <87tv5yxgae.fsf@randomsample> <878sn3qpco.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <87lfr3fdkr.fsf@randomsample> <87imlnyz2y.fsf@yale.edu> <87r20byrfs.fsf@randomsample> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="56005"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.60 (darwin) Cc: "Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo" , ding@gnus.org To: David Engster Original-X-From: ding-owner+M37170@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jan 08 04:25:34 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ip1yK-0009f8-I4 for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 04:25:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1ip1xb-0002b2-NQ; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 21:24:43 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from <0100016f832ea509-31c98128-ab0b-4bdf-aa1b-1aaa40255abc-000000@amazonses.com>) id 1ip1xY-0002YB-HF for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 21:24:40 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from <0100016f832ea509-31c98128-ab0b-4bdf-aa1b-1aaa40255abc-000000@amazonses.com>) id 1ip1xW-0003eW-DF for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 21:24:40 -0600 Original-Received: from a48-107.smtp-out.amazonses.com ([54.240.48.107]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <0100016f832ea509-31c98128-ab0b-4bdf-aa1b-1aaa40255abc-000000@amazonses.com>) id 1ip1xP-0003Hb-OX for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 04:24:34 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=2i3gzvbgh3d3bo7yfqpvb5eru2hqctky; d=j4d.net; t=1578453870; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=4KGw9Whs99lWBOnleTY6149Y8RBV2+xVXje2M4DWWlM=; b=aNo91DYhNfd4YNX14ZK88RKwliXnqLbecmkopGr4TzNnxrQPABhVeNNeAdNCCtH4 xDmcDzMhYskzflWNrxZAphuuzyiiky1zwMg+awAMqGbe3eyA0fKsW2M65bC9jHTyivq /6z+Y3hByRbgKNc8txEXsE1nzoNrp90wSZ2VmZEI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=6gbrjpgwjskckoa6a5zn6fwqkn67xbtw; d=amazonses.com; t=1578453870; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Feedback-ID; bh=4KGw9Whs99lWBOnleTY6149Y8RBV2+xVXje2M4DWWlM=; b=XwynM88LonsAysq3QbXFCJqg5Wg1XWwlNZHk75seZStVaanoEbCyWWcGeQDJ4vSY JRnhmDzb7VLI9+76mgL2cbp/SxxmSKo9ieDHTAqKbuXS9o28G3CvzS9R7eG7x4XNzTD qwGDGLM9iVUplcMRsNRr8b5Qj8ZtExDz4loDIC7w= In-Reply-To: <87r20byrfs.fsf@randomsample> (David Engster's message of "Tue, 07 Jan 2020 20:52:55 +0100") X-SES-Outgoing: 2020.01.08-54.240.48.107 Feedback-ID: 1.us-east-1.txOs6RzEvQ8hCXYeLqJ8lVjB3e7LuQl8h6pdq90PbRQ=:AmazonSES List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88967 Archived-At: >>> The real solution of course is that users simply stop using Google >>> Mail and choose a proper mail provider. >> >> Any suggestions? > > Stay flexble. Make sure to separate your email address from the mail > hosting provider. > > This means: Register your own domain at some domain registrar. I would > advise to only use this domain for mail, because this makes things > easier. Then pay another(!) company to host your mail for that > domain. I've heard good things about FastMail[1], but other mail > companies provide this service as well. As long as they allow normal > IMAP access, you will always be able to download all your mail and > migrate to another provider whenever you're not satisfied. In addition to the above. I use mbsync[1] utility to keep IMAP folders in sync at multiple providers. It is very flexible in that sense. Sync between local and IMAP folders or sync between two IMAP providers. [1] http://isync.sourceforge.net/mbsync.html Regards -- Pankaj Jangid