From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35175 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Thoughts on Message-ID generation Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:41:46 -0500 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <01Mar2.104434est.115296@gateway.intersys.com> References: <87n1b6rcq9.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <3A9EC79F.9CB38BEA@home.com> <01Mar1.174128est.115320@gateway.intersys.com> <3A9ED357.268858BD@home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170962 1605 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:29:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F58BD049E for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:42:39 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAB13835; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:42:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:41:42 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11255 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:41:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from intersys.com (gateway.intersys.com [198.133.74.253]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC64D049E for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:42:02 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by gateway.intersys.com id <115296>; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:44:34 -0500 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Channel Islands) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 24 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35175 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35175 * Toby Speight on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 | Only for Internet-connected systems. I'm not convinced that the above | is true for indirectly accessible hosts on a (e.g.) NAT network with a | private internal DNS. Isn't there a reserved domain for private naming | analogous to 10.* IP numbers? Tangental argument, and probably irrelevant. Even if you are firewalled you should not be using someone else's domain name inside your firewall. If you cannot see why it is bad, imagine if you happen to have "sun.com" as your internal domain. Now you are unable to talk to real sun.com hosts. Also, since you are talking to external hosts the responsibility is yours to ensure that your systems correctly identify themselves to those hosts. What that means is that if your host at gmx.net is firewalled it should still identify itself as "gmx.net" or "foo.gmx.net" where names and IPs are not masqeraded by the gateway. In other words, being behind a firewall is no excuse for not playing by the rules. -- Rat \ Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ PGP Key: at a key server near you! \