From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44906 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Who sets Sender:? Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 12:27:01 -0400 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <02May21.122206edt.119093@gateway.intersystems.com> References: <87bsbak1ws.fsf@nwalsh.com> <87d6vqtqnv.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <02May21.105936edt.119176@gateway.intersystems.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1021998639 12914 127.0.0.1 (21 May 2002 16:30:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 16:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17ACX0-0003MB-00 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 18:30:39 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17ACWN-0001jk-00; Tue, 21 May 2002 11:29:59 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 21 May 2002 11:30:17 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA09885 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 11:30:06 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 27651 invoked by alias); 21 May 2002 16:29:42 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 27646 invoked from network); 21 May 2002 16:29:42 -0000 Original-Received: from gateway.intersys.com (HELO intersystems.com) (198.133.74.253) by gnus.org with SMTP; 21 May 2002 16:29:42 -0000 Original-Received: by gateway.intersystems.com id <119093>; Tue, 21 May 2002 12:22:06 -0400 Original-To: Norman Walsh X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: (prj@po.cwru.edu's message of "Tue, 21 May 2002 11:27:27 -0400") Original-Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44906 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44906 * prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) on Tue, 21 May 2002 | Such as? Such as the vacation program. If ratinox@peorth.gweep.net is me and the vacation program is not me, then how should the headers be set up? Such as if for some whacked reason you let me borrow prj@po.cwru.edu. Which of us is that mailbox, really? What it ammounts to is this: if an individual has many identities then all mail is treated identically, but if an individual has one identity then many messages need to be treated differently depending on circumstances. Apply Occam's Razor. [...] | I don't see why. Anyone who's interested in the route the message was | sent by can look at the Received fields. Sender is not about message routing. It is about who did what. Sender is a social construct, similar to a secretary's mark at the end of typed message noting who did the typing. | > Sender -is- unimportant for mail. My opinion is that Sender should | > never be generated automatically for mail. | Agreed. Well, at least we agree on something, here :). [...] | Exactly *which*? Those are mutually exclusive, or were meant to be. | Should my MUA stop me from sending a response to the Sender address? No. The MUA should never stop you from doing something manually unless what you are doing will not work. Typing the Sender address into the To field of a new message is human consumption. The MUA should never automatically supply the Sender address for anything. -- Rat \ Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ unknown glowing substance which fell to PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ Earth, presumably from outer space. That and five bucks will get you a small coffee at Starbucks.