From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44933 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Who sets Sender:? Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 14:04:12 -0400 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <02May22.135919edt.119071@gateway.intersystems.com> References: <87bsbak1ws.fsf@nwalsh.com> <87d6vqtqnv.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <02May21.105936edt.119176@gateway.intersystems.com> <02May21.122206edt.119093@gateway.intersystems.com> <02May21.142858edt.119269@gateway.intersystems.com> <02May21.154121edt.119281@gateway.intersystems.com> <02May21.171141edt.119208@gateway.intersystems.com> <02May22.114919edt.119312@gateway.intersystems.com> <02May22.125928edt.119302@gateway.intersystems.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1022090820 20790 127.0.0.1 (22 May 2002 18:07:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 18:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17AaVn-0005PC-00 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 20:06:59 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17AaVv-0008BS-00; Wed, 22 May 2002 13:07:07 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 22 May 2002 13:07:26 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA14916 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 13:07:12 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 4052 invoked by alias); 22 May 2002 18:06:48 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 4047 invoked from network); 22 May 2002 18:06:48 -0000 Original-Received: from gateway.intersys.com (HELO intersystems.com) (198.133.74.253) by gnus.org with SMTP; 22 May 2002 18:06:48 -0000 Original-Received: by gateway.intersystems.com id <119071>; Wed, 22 May 2002 13:59:19 -0400 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?(Bj=F8rn?= Mork's message of "Wed, 22 May 2002 19:38:40 +0200") Original-Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44933 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44933 * Bjørn Mork on Wed, 22 May 2002 | If I were to state my beliefs, I would say that the intented meaning | of this section is that a Sender never should be added as long as the | _person_ writing the message and the _person_ entering the message | into the mail transport are the same: This requirement fails for programs, programs acting on behalf of users, users acting on behalf of themselves for political reasons, and possibly many other cases, none of which an MUA can possibly determine without help from the user who presumably understands what he is doing. Fact is, most users do not know what they are doing. [...] | Which is a problem for whom/what? We humans who may need information for political or technical reasons. [...] | One can either be a religious fanatic, or try to adapt as much as | possible within the _actual_ RFC requirements. I have stated nothing that violates the letter or the spirit of RFC 2822. Quite the contrary, I have proposed a solution that meets all of the requirements of all of the relevant RFCs, not just RFC 2822. -- Rat \ Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ unknown glowing substance which fell to PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ Earth, presumably from outer space. That and five bucks will get you a small coffee at Starbucks.