From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52792 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MML charset tag regression Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:25:53 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <0F223D16-8C72-11D7-8F50-00039363E640@swipnet.se> References: <200305220058.JAA06943@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1053620980 14118 80.91.224.249 (22 May 2003 16:29:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 16:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, rms@gnu.org, jas@extundo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1336@lists.math.uh.edu Thu May 22 18:29:37 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Istq-0003PB-00 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:26:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19Isuo-0004er-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:27:38 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19Isud-0004ej-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:27:27 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 78805 invoked by alias); 22 May 2003 16:27:27 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 78799 invoked from network); 22 May 2003 16:27:26 -0000 Original-Received: from stubby.bodenonline.com (193.201.16.94) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 22 May 2003 16:27:26 -0000 Original-Received: from accessno42.bodenonline.com (accessno42.bodenonline.com [193.201.16.44]) by stubby.bodenonline.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h4MHGTS3018378; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:16:30 +0200 Original-To: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: <200305220058.JAA06943@etlken.m17n.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52792 gmane.emacs.devel:14096 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52792 > The current Emacs still don't unify Unicode and the other > legacy charsets (e.g. iso-8859-2, jisx0208, gb2312) > automatically. So, for instance, if iso-8859-2 characters > arrive at Emacs with UTF8_STRING, they are decoded into the > charset mule-unicode-0100-24ff and treated differently > (e.g. in searching) than the characters of the charset > iso-8859-2. Okay, that explains it. But playing the devils advocate a bit, does this not simply point out a problem with Emacs, not GTK? If UTF8_STRING is the recommended thing to use, changing GTK would not help much, as there are other X toolkits out there (Qt, Motif, and so on), that will start to use UTF8_STRING also (Qt already does)? Isn't this an argument for getting the Unicode Emacs branch released, or unify charsets? Jan D.