From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/16616 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Balker Rasmussen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: 7bit and iso-8859-1 Date: 02 Sep 1998 17:49:08 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <0f3eaa5xcb.fsf@fenris.mjolner.dk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035155460 28904 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:11:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11253 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAF01345; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:22:04 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 02 Sep 1998 10:49:24 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02462 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:49:16 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from fenris.mjolner.dk (fenris.mjolner.dk [130.225.8.214]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11222 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from lbr@localhost) by fenris.mjolner.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA14353; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:49:08 +0200 (MET DST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "02 Sep 1998 16:30:58 +0200" Original-Lines: 39 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:16616 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:16616 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Try the following: > > Put "Thïs" into an empty buffer, and then eval > `(progn (mm-encode-body) (mm-body-encoding))'. You should get > `7bit'. If not, go to the "ï" and eval > `(char-charset (following-char))'. You should get `latin-iso8859-1'. > If you get `ascii', then, uhm. Uhm? I get the same problems as Jon (pgnus 0.13, Emacs-20.3), and I think I know why: (Seems that iso-insert is now default in 20.3, but it's not my build so I can't say what they have put into it.) Running `emacs-20.3 -q', `C-x 8 a' inserts what looks like an å, except (char-charset (following-char)) on it says ascii. C-h k C-x 8 a C-x 8 a runs the command insert-a-ring /usr/local/share/emacs/20.3/lisp/international/iso-insert.el: (defun insert-a-ring () (interactive "*") (insert 229) ) Also, writing a simple test-message with just a couple of å's will have Gnus complain about posting an empty message (?). If I cut'n'paste an å from an xterm, I get the expected latin-iso8859-1 from (char-charset (following-char)). Yes, I have an American keyboard, and will have to jump through hoops to get accented chars. So I'm wondering; what's the REAL way of getting iso8859-1 chars under Mule, when iso-insert obviously is broken? -- Lars Balker Rasmussen, Software Engineer, Mjolner Informatics ApS lbr@mjolner.dk