Zapping crossposts..

Zapping crossposts..

[Andy Eskilsson]

I have:

("xref" ("[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+"-1000 nil r))

In one of my score-files, but articles crossposted to so many and more
groups ain't low-scored.. doing a trace score on such group says that
nor rules apply to that article.. 

I have also tried:

("newsgroups"
  ("[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*," -1000 nil r))

But with the same result, is the 'header' case sensitive?? Am I
missing something very special here?? 

	/Andy

p.s. is there anywhere it is possible to experiment with this stuff,
sort of throw in a lisp.expression and gnus says what it thinks of it
together with the marked article?

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Re: Zapping crossposts..

[Andy Eskilsson]

/ Andy Eskilsson <flognat@fukt.hk-r.se> wrote:
| I have:
| 
| ("xref" ("[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+"-1000 nil r))
| 
| In one of my score-files, but articles crossposted to so many and more
| groups ain't low-scored.. doing a trace score on such group says that
| nor rules apply to that article.. 

Gotcha.. it seems as though the following:

("[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+" -1000 nil r)

doesn't apply on a virtual group, but it does wonders on the other
groups under the topic who has this scorefile.. 

Any hints?? BTW Do the \n's  need to be there 

	/Andy

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Re: Zapping crossposts..

[Yair Friedman]

Andy Eskilsson <flognat@fukt.hk-r.se> writes:

> Gotcha.. it seems as though the following:
> 
> ("[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+" -1000 nil r)
> 
> doesn't apply on a virtual group, but it does wonders on the other
> groups under the topic who has this scorefile.. 
> 
> Any hints?? BTW Do the \n's  need to be there 
> 
> 	/Andy

I seem to have the reverse problem. 

("Xref: \\S-+ \\S-+ \\S-+ \\S-+ \\S-+" -1 nil r)

seems to hit ALL articles in nnvirtual groups (In regular groups
it works as expected).

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Re: Zapping crossposts..

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Andy Eskilsson <flognat@fukt.hk-r.se> writes:

> Gotcha.. it seems as though the following:
> 
> ("[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+" -1000 nil r)
> 
> doesn't apply on a virtual group, but it does wonders on the other
> groups under the topic who has this scorefile.. 

It should apply (even more so, due to a bug) to nnvirtual groups...

> Any hints?? BTW Do the \n's  need to be there 

Yup.

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Re: Zapping crossposts..

[David Moore]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Andy Eskilsson <flognat@fukt.hk-r.se> writes:
> 
> > Gotcha.. it seems as though the following:
> > 
> > ("[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+" -1000 nil r)
> > 
> > doesn't apply on a virtual group, but it does wonders on the other
> > groups under the topic who has this scorefile.. 
> 
> It should apply (even more so, due to a bug) to nnvirtual groups...

Actually, I think this version won't apply more, since some of the extra
goop added doesn't have ':' involved.

Hopefully I'll have a "fix" for nnvirtual's Xref rewriting soon.

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Re: Zapping crossposts..

[Lars Balker Rasmussen]

Andy Eskilsson <flognat@fukt.hk-r.se> writes:
> ("xref" ("[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+ +[^:\n]+:[0-9]+"-1000 nil r))
> 
> In one of my score-files, but articles crossposted to so many and more
> groups ain't low-scored.. doing a trace score on such group says that
> nor rules apply to that article.. 

Xref's does not work if your newsserver doesn't have xrefs in the
overview files.  Also, it doesn't work on articles crossposted to groups
you don't have on your server.

> I have also tried:
> 
> ("newsgroups"
>   ("[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*," -1000 nil r))
> 
> But with the same result, is the 'header' case sensitive?? Am I
> missing something very special here?? 

Tsk, Andy! :-)

>From the info pages:

     If the key is a string, it is the name of the header to perform the
     match on.  Scoring can only be performed on these eight headers:
     `From', `Subject', `References', `Message-ID', `Xref', `Lines',
     `Chars' and `Date'.  In addition to these headers, there are three
     strings to tell Gnus to fetch the entire article and do the match
     on larger parts of the article: `Body' will perform the match on
     the body of the article, `Head' will perform the match on the head
     of the article, and `All' will perform the match on the entire
     article.  Note that using any of these last three keys will slow
     down group entry *considerably*.

So, you could use

  ("head"
   ("Newsgroups:[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*,[^,]*," -1000 nil r))

but I wouldn't advise it...
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Re: Zapping crossposts..

[Andy Eskilsson]

/ Lars Balker Rasmussen <lbr@mjolner.dk> wrote:
| 
| Xref's does not work if your newsserver doesn't have xrefs in the
| overview files.  Also, it doesn't work on articles crossposted to groups
| you don't have on your server.

Well the articles I am looking at are certainly carrying the
xref-header, AND more than the number of groups that ought to be
matching the regexp.. 

Well as you probably have read, the xref score isn't applied in a
virtual group while some of the other, subject, author scores seems to
be applied.. 

The xref scores is applied if I read the groups separately!

	/Andy

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Re: Zapping crossposts..

[Justin Sheehy]

Andy Eskilsson <flognat@fukt.hk-r.se> writes:

> Well as you probably have read, the xref score isn't applied in a
> virtual group

xref scores are applied in nnvirtual groups, just not correctly.

This is a known problem.

-Justin