ding archive at ftp.hpc.uh.edu

ding archive at ftp.hpc.uh.edu

[Harry Putnam]

A little off topic for this list but relevant I hope:

Recently downloaded the /ding-list/ archive (old).  Since it takes so
long for the ftp process to list out the contents of /ding-list/ I just
used ncftp in recursive mode.  Quite a project and didn't turn out like
I thought it would.

The most recent messages were dated in May 97
I wanted more recent but not as recent as the 'recent-ding archive which
shows to be starting in March of 98.   Where are the messages inbetween
the most recent on /old-ding  and the oldest on /recent-ding/

Checking the archives at ftp.hpc.uh.edu  using ange-ftp after waiting
for the /ding-list/ dir to list out  I see the most recent listed as
being :
-rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1887 Sep 23  1996 9997
-rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1617 Sep 23  1996 9998
-rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1203 Sep 23  1996 9999

>From 1996,  however the actual download has messages a year newer in
it. Am I misinterpreting the way dating is done on the files.  Or do you
have to look at the actual messages to get the right date or what?
Looking at a few on /recent-ding the message dates match the file dates.

But on the /ding-list the dates shown as file dates on the most recent
(last) messages (shown above) are not the same as message dates that get
downloaded.  The downloaded directory has lots of messages from 97.

I want messages from about Sept 97 to Feb/Mar 98.  How can I tell where
they are on the ftp site?

-- 

Harry Putnam  reader@newsguy.com

Re: ding archive at ftp.hpc.uh.edu

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

>>>>> "HP" == Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

HP> The most recent messages were dated in May 97

Huh?

XYX:sina:~/Mail/ding-list> ls -ltr | tail
-rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        2144 Jun  3 11:01 17412*
-rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        3022 Jun  3 11:38 17413*
-rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        4892 Jun  3 12:33 17414*
-rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        2222 Jun  3 19:22 17415*
-rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        2280 Jun  3 19:22 17416*
-rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        2509 Jun  3 19:22 17417*
-rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        2589 Jun  3 19:39 17418*
-rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        3022 Jun  3 19:42 17419*
-rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        1838 Jun  3 23:28 17420*

The files are definitely there.  Of course, there are nearly 17500 files in
that directory; perhaps this blows up your FTP client.  NCFTP 3b11 finds
all of the files just fine.

HP> Where are the messages inbetween the most recent on /old-ding and the
HP> oldest on /recent-ding/

Right where they're supposed to be.

 - J<

Re: ding archive at ftp.hpc.uh.edu

[Harry Putnam]

Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@hpc.uh.edu> writes:

> >>>>> "HP" == Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> 
> HP> The most recent messages were dated in May 97
> 
> Huh?
Your showing the "recent" ding-list.  I'm asking about the most recent
on the old ding list.  emacs -ange-ftp shows the end of that list as in
my post:

  -rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1887 Sep 23  1996 9997
  -rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1617 Sep 23  1996 9998
  -rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1203 Sep 23  1996 9999

So apparently emacs isn't displaying the full list.

My version of ncftp won't touch it either (ncftp-2.4.2-3)
It did finally list it out but crapped out on downloading,

> 
> XYX:sina:~/Mail/ding-list> ls -ltr | tail
> -rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        2144 Jun  3 11:01 17412*
> -rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        3022 Jun  3 11:38 17413*
> -rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        4892 Jun  3 12:33 17414*
> -rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        2222 Jun  3 19:22 17415*
> -rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        2280 Jun  3 19:22 17416*
> -rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        2509 Jun  3 19:22 17417*
> -rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        2589 Jun  3 19:39 17418*
> -rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        3022 Jun  3 19:42 17419*
> -rw-r--r-x   2 tibbs    staff        1838 Jun  3 23:28 17420*
> 
> The files are definitely there.  Of course, there are nearly 17500 files in
> that directory; perhaps this blows up your FTP client.  NCFTP 3b11 finds
> all of the files just fine.

I went to command line ftp and now am able to see the full list.

Thanks for the info.
 
> 
> Right where they're supposed to be.

Ah yes,  and nice to have these available. 

-- 

Harry Putnam  reader@newsguy.com

Re: ding archive at ftp.hpc.uh.edu

[Lars Balker Rasmussen]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> emacs -ange-ftp shows the end of that list as in my post:
> 
>   -rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1887 Sep 23  1996 9997
>   -rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1617 Sep 23  1996 9998
>   -rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1203 Sep 23  1996 9999
> 
> So apparently emacs isn't displaying the full list.

Or emacs is showing it alphabetically.  Check the list in the
neighbourhood of 1741 ;-)
-- 
Lars Balker Rasmussen, Software Engineer, Mjolner Informatics ApS
lbr@mjolner.dk

Re: ding archive at ftp.hpc.uh.edu

[Harry Putnam]

Lars Balker Rasmussen <lbr@mjolner.dk> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> > emacs -ange-ftp shows the end of that list as in my post:
> > 
> >   -rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1887 Sep 23  1996 9997
> >   -rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1617 Sep 23  1996 9998
> >   -rw-r--r-x   1 tibbs    staff        1203 Sep 23  1996 9999
> > 
> > So apparently emacs isn't displaying the full list.
> 
> Or emacs is showing it alphabetically.  Check the list in the
> neighbourhood of 1741 ;-)

I guess the only problem was, my getting confused in such a large list.

But it is a bit hard to tell how it is organized.  In emacs default
view, Sept 96 comes last and Apr of 95 is sprinkled through out (about
every 11 messages or so) in places.  Randomly in others.

Pressing 's' in dired (if you don't mind the wait) shows a more
understandable view.


-- 

Harry Putnam  reader@newsguy.com