feature request for Bcc

feature request for Bcc

[Michael Grubb]

It would be nice if blind carbon copy (Bcc) recipients saw something 
indicating it was a Bcc.  Really, anything in the headers or text would
be helpful.  MH does this by inserting a " ----- Blind Carbon Copy" line
at the beginning of the message body, which is kinda nice.

Just a thought.  Or maybe there's already a way to do this?

     -- M.

-- 
Michael Grubb <mg@duke.edu>
Duke University Office of Information Technology
phone +1 919 660 6903 / 409 North Building, Durham NC 27708-0132 USA

Re: feature request for Bcc

[Samuel Tardieu]

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Grubb <mg@duke.edu> writes:

Michael> Just a thought.  Or maybe there's already a way to do this?

Here is how I do it: my `sendmail-program' variable is set to
"~/etc/dgnus.rc", which is a procmail script which contains (amongst
others) the following lines:

#!/usr/local/bin/procmail -m
[...]
:0c
* ^Bcc:
        {
        HFROM = `formail -XFrom:`
        HTO = `formail -XTo:`
        HSUB = `formail -zxSubject:`
        HCC = `formail -XCc:`
        HNEWS = `formail -XNewsgroups:`
        HDIS = `formail -XDistribution:`
        HFOL = `formail -XFollowup-To:`
        HREP = `formail -XReply-To:`

        :0bfw
        | echo; echo "---Blind Carbon Copy---"; echo; \
          if [ "x$HFROM" != "x" ] ; then echo $HFROM; fi; \
          if [ "x$HTO" != "x" ] ; then echo $HTO; fi; \
          if [ "x$HSUB" != "x" ] ; then echo "Subject:$HSUB"; fi; \
          if [ "x$HCC" != "x" ] ; then echo $HCC; fi; \
          if [ "x$HNEWS" != "x" ] ; then echo $HNEWS; fi; \
          if [ "x$HFOL" != "x" ] ; then echo $HFOL; fi; \
          if [ "x$HDIS" != "x" ] ; then echo $HDIS; fi; \
          if [ "x$HREP" != "x" ] ; then echo $HREP; fi; \
          echo; \
          cat; \
          echo "---End of Blind Carbon Copy---"; echo; echo

        :0
        | formail -Y -I"To: Blind recipients <sam@inf.enst.fr>" \
                -ICc: -IMessage-Id: \
                -I"X-Bcc-Trash: yes" \
                -I"Subject: [BCC] $HSUB" -aMessage-Id: | \
          $SENDMAIL -t
        }
[...]

This is IMHO a good thing to send Bcc: mail differently, because the
hidden recipient cannot followup by mistake and answer everyone !

  Sam
-- 
"La cervelle des petits enfants, ca doit avoir comme un petit gout de noisette"
                                                       Charles Baudelaire

Re: feature request for Bcc

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Michael Grubb <mg@duke.edu> writes:

> It would be nice if blind carbon copy (Bcc) recipients saw something 
> indicating it was a Bcc.  Really, anything in the headers or text would
> be helpful.  MH does this by inserting a " ----- Blind Carbon Copy" line
> at the beginning of the message body, which is kinda nice.

I don't think so.  If you want to Cc somebody, you should Cc them.
Bcc should only be used for (IMHO) having sendmail sending yourself a
copy of the mail you send.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Re: feature request for Bcc

[Kai Grossjohann]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes:

  Lars> I don't think so.  If you want to Cc somebody, you should Cc
  Lars> them.  Bcc should only be used for (IMHO) having sendmail
  Lars> sending yourself a copy of the mail you send.

The advantage of Bcc is that those in To and Cc don't know the mail
got sent to somebody else too.  You could complain to somebody and Bcc
their boss...  Naughty, naughty.

kai
-- 
I wonder why nobody don't like me,
or is it de fact dat I'm ugly? -- Harry Belafonte

Re: feature request for Bcc

[Lars Balker Rasmussen]

Kai Grossjohann <grossjohann@charly.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> writes:
> The advantage of Bcc is that those in To and Cc don't know the mail
> got sent to somebody else too.  You could complain to somebody and Bcc
> their boss...  Naughty, naughty.

Yeah, we use that _all_ the time out here in the semi-real world ;-)
-- 
Lars Balker Rasmussen                                              - Duck!
<URL:http://www.daimi.aau.dk/~gnort/>                              - Where!?!

Re: feature request for Bcc

[Eric Hendrickson]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:

> I don't think so.  If you want to Cc somebody, you should Cc them.
> Bcc should only be used for (IMHO) having sendmail sending yourself a
> copy of the mail you send.

I agree, Bcc should be just that, blank.
-- 
Too much of anything, even love, isn't necessarily a good thing.
		-- Kirk, "The Trouble with Tribbles", stardate 4525.6

Re: feature request for Bcc

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

------- Blind-Carbon-Copy

Subject: Re: feature request for Bcc
From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@ga.sony.co.jp>
Organization: The Katsumi Yamaoka Fan Club
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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 96 08:32:27 +0900
Sender: yamaoka
Bcc: Blind Distribution List: ;

Bcc: ding@ifi.uio.no :-)

>>>>> In <vw1zq0ualbs.fsf@cambot.oit.duke.edu>
>>>>>	Michael Grubb <mg@duke.edu> wrote:

> MH does this by inserting a " ----- Blind Carbon Copy" line at the
> beginning of the message body,

> Just a thought.  Or maybe there's already a way to do this?

(setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-mh)
- -- 
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@ga.sony.co.jp>

------- End of Blind-Carbon-Copy

Re: feature request for Bcc

[Michael Grubb]

Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@ga.sony.co.jp> writes:

> (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-mh)

Thanks!  This worked for me after adding "Sender" to 
message-deletable-headers.

     -- M.

-- 
Michael Grubb <mg@duke.edu> "not qualified to appear in public"