Hi, Every once in a while Gnus (as shipped with GNU Emacs 19.34b) sorts the summary buffer weirdly as shown below. Note the two lines with the subject 'Re: Monotheism vs Polytheism in Paganism' appear to be sorted badly out of order. From their scores they should be near the bottom of the buffer, not stuck in with the zero-scored articles. This occurs ONLY with articles that have 'Re:" on the front of them and happens in almost all groups at least occasionally. Has anyone else seen this? It has been happening to me for a long time now and has finally reached my irritation threshold. --[Lance] ... 10[ 20:Kate Orman ] Re: Overpopulation and Paganism (was Save the Planet, Kill Yourself 10[ 21:Oscar Pederson ] Re: you're both missing point R 0[ 30:Nick Upson ] "Pagan Priest not Guilty" 0[ 30: 0[ 30:Joshua Bardwell ] Pascal's Argument shows up again (was something else) 0[ 24:Zanetta Markham ] Samhain info for kids 0[ 29:Chris Carlisle ] St. Louis Pagans--want to help? -8[ 18:Anthony R Giegler ] Re: Definitions Ad Nauseum -10 < 29:Lew Stead > -10 < 38:Mariposa > ... Here is the relevant info from invoking gnus-bug. ------------------ Environment follows ------------------ (setq gnus-default-nntp-server "") (setq gnus-message-archive-group '((if (message-news-p) "nnmh:outbox.news" "nnmh:outbox"))) (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnmh "" (nnmh-directory "~/Mail/") (nnmh-get-new-mail nil) (nnmh-be-safe t)))) (setq gnus-secondary-servers '("news.niehs.nih.gov" "nih-csl.dcrt.nih.gov" "iecc.com")) (setq gnus-init-file "~/el/lab-sgnus") (setq gnus-group-faq-directory '("/ftp@ftp.seas.gwu.edu:/pub/rtfm/" "/ftp@mirrors.aol.com:/pub/rtfm/usenet/" "/ftp@sunsite.auc.dk:/pub/usenet/" "/ftp@sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk:/pub/usenet/news-faqs/" "/ftp@src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/usenet/news-FAQS/" "/ftp@rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/" "/ftp@ftp.uni-paderborn.de:/pub/FAQ/" "/ftp@ftp.sunet.se:/pub/usenet/" "/ftp@nctuccca.edu.tw:/USENET/FAQ/" "/ftp@hwarang.postech.ac.kr:/pub/usenet/" "/ftp@ftp.hk.super.net:/mirror/faqs/")) (setq gnus-dribble-directory "/usr/people/labrown/News") (setq gnus-asynchronous t) (setq gnus-default-article-saver 'gnus-summary-save-in-folder) (setq gnus-use-adaptive-scoring t) (setq gnus-use-cache t) (setq gnus-use-nocem t) (setq gnus-novice-user nil) (setq gnus-verbose 10) (setq gnus-summary-thread-gathering-function 'gnus-gather-threads-by-references) (setq gnus-kill-killed nil) (setq gnus-summary-zcore-fuzz 20) (setq gnus-decode-encoded-word-method #[nil "À‡" [nil] 1]) (setq gnus-thread-indent-level 2) (setq gnus-auto-select-first nil) (setq gnus-auto-select-next 'quietly) (setq gnus-subscribe-options-newsgroup-method 'gnus-subscribe-zombies) (setq gnus-summary-line-format "%U%R%4,4i%I%(%[%4L:%-19,19n%]%) %s\n") (setq gnus-summary-mode-line-format "Gnus: %%b %Z ") (setq gnus-article-mode-line-format "Gnus: %%b %-28,28S ") (setq gnus-group-mode-line-format "Gnus: %%b {%M:%S} ") (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number gnus-thread-sort-by-subject gnus-thread-sort-by-score)) (setq gnus-thread-score-function 'max) (setq gnus-auto-subscribed-groups nil) (setq gnus-summary-mode-hook '(mc-install-read-mode)) (setq gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook '(gnus-summary-expire-articles)) (setq gnus-startup-hook '(#[nil "ÀÁÂ\"ˆÀÁÃ\"ˆÄÀÆÂ\"‡" [remove-hook gnus-summary-prepare-hook hilit-rehighlight-buffer-quietly hilit-install-line-hooks (gnus-summary-mark-read-and-unread-as-read) gnus-mark-article-hook gnus-article-prepare-hook] 3])) (setq gnus-article-prepare-hook '(bbdb/gnus-update-record gnus-article-date-local)) (setq gnus-parse-headers-hook '(gnus-decode-rfc1522)) (setq gnus-save-newsrc-hook '(bbdb-offer-save)) (setq gnus-score-interactive-default-score 10) (setq gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist '((gnus-kill-file-mark) (gnus-unread-mark) (gnus-read-mark (from 2) (subject 10)) (gnus-catchup-mark (subject -10)) (gnus-killed-mark (from -2) (subject -20)) (gnus-expirable-mark (from -2) (subject -15)) (gnus-del-mark (from -2) (subject -15)))) (setq message-from-style 'parens) (setq message-autosave-directory "~/News/Drafts") (setq message-post-method '(nnspool "")) (setq message-generate-headers-first t) (setq message-mode-hook '(bbdb-insinuate-message)) (setq message-header-setup-hook '(gnus-inews-insert-archive-gcc gnus-inews-insert-gcc)) (setq message-cite-function 'sc-cite-original)