From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/81271 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Multi-SMTP Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:15:39 +0000 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: <11k43xmsgk.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> References: <87k44576et.fsf@gnus.org> <87bopfkhx8.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87liofilk5.fsf@gnus.org> <87pqdq4o1h.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Reply-To: ding@gnus.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328700041 24587 80.91.229.3 (8 Feb 2012 11:20:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:20:41 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M29552@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Feb 08 12:20:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rv5Zo-0000KF-Qm for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:20:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rv5Z5-0003Kr-38; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:19:55 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rv5VT-0003Jn-Ta for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:16:11 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Rv5VP-00025n-B0 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:16:11 -0600 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rv5VN-0004Kd-Ab for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:16:05 +0100 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rv5VL-00078V-Hc for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:16:03 +0100 Original-Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:16:03 +0100 Original-Received: from rileyrg by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:16:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.183.18.158 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130002 (Ma Gnus v0.2) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yTAh/ErrtXsxzbfrjer2iK1h20E= X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-1681--8869h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-1437--7580h-0s--0d--H*u:Gnus, 0.000-1356--7153h-0s--0d--H*u:linux, 0.000-1356--7153h-0s--0d--H*UA:linux, 0.000-1321--6971h-0s--0d--H*UA:gnu Spam tokens: 0.935-8062--5040h-74918s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-External:quimby.gnus.org, 0.935-8062--5040h-74918s--0d--H*RU:quimby.gnus.org, 0.931-7457--5171h-72207s--0d--HTo:D*gnus.org, 0.924-7364--6047h-76686s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-Internal:quimby.gnus.org, 0.924-7364--6047h-76686s--0d--H*RT:80.91.231.51 Autolearn status: no 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rileyrg[at]gmail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 1.2 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.9 NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED ADSP custom_med hit, and not from a mailing list List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:81271 Archived-At: Eric S Fraga writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Eric S Fraga writes: >> >>> No, I would prefer explicit control of what smtp server to use as I >>> frequently respond to emails that have come into one account as if they >>> had come into another account (e.g. I receive personal emails on my work >>> account but would rather carry on the conversation on my personal >>> email). >> >> Sure. Hm. Should there be an explicit Message command for setting the >> mail sending method, perhaps? >> >> But I do think it would make sense to make it easy to be able to >> configure the outgoing method based on the To address. Does either Gnus >> or Message already have a thing for customising the Message buffer based >> on that? I couldn't see anything obvious... > > No idea. I manage this by posting styles based on folders and splitting > of emails to end up in the right folders. If I get an email in a "work" > folder, say, that I want to respond as a "personal" email, I manually > move the original mail to a suitable folder and then respond. Not ideal > but it works... Can you explain in more detail about why you would want smtp based on to address as additional functionality? smtp is about sending so its clear that from address/group drives this in the *normal* situation : especially since some smtp services wont allow a different from address to the account authorized user (gmail for example). I wonder if the better work model would be to split incoming based on *from* address when they're spooled in and then simply use gnus posting styles attributes to indicate the smtp outgoing server line in authinfo to utilise : therefore the development effort is curtailed to simply outgoing smtp server selection : which really should be selectable by gnus-posting-styles which is an existing proven, documented and customisable method of guiding gnus.