From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/69796 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: ssl problems Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 10:38:16 -0700 Message-ID: <14564.8104175509$1278524335@news.gmane.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278524335 20331 80.91.229.12 (7 Jul 2010 17:38:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:38:55 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M18186@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jul 07 19:38:53 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OWYaC-0003U4-Ng for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:38:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OWYZy-0008Vg-FI; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:38:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OWYZw-0008VT-UB for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:38:36 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OWYZv-0006iP-G6 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:38:36 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1OWYZt-000735-00 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:38:33 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OWYZp-0003IE-B5 for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:38:29 +0200 Original-Received: from c-76-104-192-32.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([76.104.192.32]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:38:29 +0200 Original-Received: from eric by c-76-104-192-32.hsd1.wa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:38:29 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-104-192-32.hsd1.wa.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wqEXqiVp4KDKDFKkc8EKi3EsC4o= X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:69796 Archived-At: I recently updated from debian lenny to squeeze, and have found that connecting to gmail's pop servers via ssl has become extremely dicey. I have four email addresses, all of them gmail, and on any given mail check three of them will tell me "POP SSL connexion failed". It can be very hard to get all my email. My emacs/gnus versions and setup did not change (still emacs 23.3.1 and gnus 5.13), all that changed was my linux installation. I'm accessing gmail on port 995 with ":ssl t", and I have "starttls-use-gnutls" set to true. My gnutls version is 2.8.6, which I see isn't the latest version, but 2.10 isn't in the debian repos and besides this was working smoothly under lenny, which presumably had the same gnutls version. Is there anything I can do to further debug this? I'm not an expert with using gnutls-cli from the command line, but so far as I can tell it connects fine (gnus only fails *most* of the time, anyway…). Is there a way to get gnus to tell me *why* the POP SSL connection failed? Thanks, Eric