From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/60553 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aidan Kehoe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Changing charset for posting news Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:23:46 +0100 Message-ID: <17108.20738.57239.905612@parhasard.net> References: <4nbr57naf1.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1121264196 2801 80.91.229.2 (13 Jul 2005 14:16:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M9080@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jul 13 16:16:31 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dsi0R-0004Np-90 for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:14:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1DshvQ-00056C-00; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:09:24 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1DsT74-0002bL-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:20:26 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DsT74-0002ha-1v for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:20:26 -0500 Original-Received: from 170.69-93-162.reverse.theplanet.com ([69.93.162.170] helo=ns5.nestdesign.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DsT6z-0004Ji-00 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:20:21 +0200 Original-Received: by ns5.nestdesign.com (Postfix, from userid 508) id E368D328010; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:20:10 +0100 (IST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus X-NS5-file-as-sent: t User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.5-b21 (corn, NetBSD-i386) Cancel-Lock: sha1:G2wSS0xh9Vavd2udKlE1Pi/je2Y= Posted-To: gnu.emacs.gnus X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60553 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60553 Ar an dara l=C3=A1 d=C3=A9ag de m=C3=AD I=C3=BAil, scr=C3=ADobh David Sumb= ler:=20 > > Hit `G c' on the group that you want to customize. Set the preferred > > charset to iso-8859-1. Save. That should do it. The Gnus manual > > should have more information on this - I don't use it myself, so the > > manual is the authoritative source. >=20 > Strange: I have tried this, having commented out in .gnus the lines > suggested by Aidan, and it doesn't work! Despite having specified > iso-8859-1, as you suggest, messages I send to the fr.test group still > are sent as UTF-8 and quoted printable. That=E2=80=99s a bug that some changes I made tickled, according to this ma= il: http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200505/msg00121.html But I=E2=80=99ve looked into this some more, and, well, the design of that = code is hugely broken--loads of programming using and endorsing underdocumented dynamic binding, crazy return values--and I haven=E2=80=99t seen an example= where setting mm-coding-system-priorities appropriately is broken. I=E2=80=99ll p= ut together a patch removing support for newsgroup-specific character sets if this sounds reasonable.=20 If not, I=E2=80=99ll look into adding support for binding message-posting-c= harset around calls to mm-find-charset-region, which should re-add support for the charset-per-newsgroup approach.=20 --=20 Russian has no phoneme that corresponds directly to Germanic /h/. As a=20 result, for a not-insignificant number of people, the Second World War=20 involved the Soviet Union defeating =D0=90=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D1=84 = =D0=93=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=BB=D0=B5=D1=80, =E2=80=9CAdolf Gitler.=E2=80=9D=20