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From: Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Changing charset for posting news
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:56:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17114.21866.109263.589624@parhasard.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4n64vcjcwo.fsf@lifelogs.com>


 Ar an cúigiú lá déag de mí Iúil, scríobh Ted Zlatanov: 

 > > That’s a bug that some changes I made tickled, according to this mail:
 > > 
 > > http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200505/msg00121.html
 > > 
 > > But I’ve looked into this some more, and, well, the design of that code is
 > > hugely broken--loads of programming using and endorsing underdocumented
 > > dynamic binding, crazy return values--and I haven’t seen an example where
 > > setting mm-coding-system-priorities appropriately is broken. I’ll put
 > > together a patch removing support for newsgroup-specific character sets if
 > > this sounds reasonable. 
 > 
 > I think removing features is the wrong way to go, personally.  Setting
 > the charset per newsgroup is useful.

Do you use the feature? Since Emacs de-unifies the Han character sets, the
only people for whom this would be theoretically useful, in the presence of
a working mm-coding-system-priorities variable that chooses the character
set based on the message content, would be Russian speakers who want to
choose between koi8-r and windows-1251 for their Russian posts. Are there
any such users? (Or Bulgarians or Serbs etc. who want to make the same
choice, I suppose.)

Agreed, it does offer a better out-of-the-box experience for Cyrillic users;
but changing the default value of mm-coding-system-priorities based on
language environment would achieve the same thing, I think. 

 > > If not, I’ll look into adding support for binding
 > > message-posting-charset around calls to mm-find-charset-region, which
 > > should re-add support for the charset-per-newsgroup approach.
 > 
 > If you could do that, it would be great.  I was going to look into it
 > when I had free time, which will not be soon :) I think it's a
 > valuable Gnus feature.

And it’s horrible, horrible code :-) . 

-- 
Russian has no phoneme that's close to Germanic /h/. As a result, for a
not-insignificant number of people, the Second World War involved the Soviet
Union defeating Адольф Гитлер, �Adolf Gitler.”
 



  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-17 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <m3y88dc7ub.fsf@ceres.staly.plus.com>
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     [not found]   ` <m3eka3wwxa.fsf@ceres.staly.plus.com>
2005-07-12 23:23     ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-07-15 15:40       ` Ted Zlatanov
2005-07-17 12:56         ` Aidan Kehoe [this message]
2005-07-18 14:33           ` Ted Zlatanov

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