From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62606 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aidan Kehoe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.18] gnus 5.10.7 not rendering Latin-1 headers Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:14:15 +0200 Message-ID: <17464.49751.126409.918962@parhasard.net> References: <8062.1140387067@athyra> <87mzgmquy4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1144570429 13497 80.91.229.2 (9 Apr 2006 08:13:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 08:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, XEmacs Beta Original-X-From: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Sun Apr 09 10:13:45 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gexb-xemacs-beta@gmane.org Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([199.184.165.135]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSV3B-0007tW-Mg for gexb-xemacs-beta@gmane.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:13:37 +0200 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k398DQD5002856; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 04:13:27 -0400 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k398DNUq002849 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 04:13:23 -0400 Original-Received: (from xemacweb@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k398DNDf002848 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 04:13:23 -0400 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k398DI5m002827 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 04:13:19 -0400 Original-Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k398DIQF002822 for xemacweb@tux.org; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 04:13:18 -0400 Original-Received: from icarus.asclepian.ie (icarus.ipv4.asclepian.ie [66.111.49.30]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k398DH17002807 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 04:13:17 -0400 Original-Received: by icarus.asclepian.ie (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E6FFB8008C; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:13:09 +0100 (IST) Original-To: Reiner Steib In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta24) "dandelion" (+CVS-20051223) XEmacs Lucid X-NS5-file-as-sent: t X-Echelon-distraction: Serbian North Korea SEAL Team 6 Ron Brown clones arrangements X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 09 Apr 2006 04:13:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 09 Apr 2006 04:13:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 09 Apr 2006 04:13:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Greylist: Delayed for 14:44:53 by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [199.184.165.136]); Sun, 09 Apr 2006 04:13:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by gwyn.tux.org id k398DQD5002856 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:22573 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:62606 Archived-At: Ar an fichi=C3=BA l=C3=A1 de m=C3=AD Feabhra, scr=C3=ADobh Reiner Steib>= :=20 > Stephen, I don't understand this finger pointing. It doesn't bring us > any further. If you look at Gnus' ChangeLog you won't find any > changes aiming to stop supporting no-MULE XEmacs. There are only very > few XEmacs specific changes in that area, AFAICS. Most of these were > patches from Aidan WRT latin-unity (I don't know if those are > responsible for Mike's problems or not). =20 All my Gnus code that touches on latin-unity is wrapped in this (it=E2=80= =99s in the mm-xemacs-find-mime-charset-1 function): (defmacro mm-xemacs-find-mime-charset (begin end) (when (featurep 'xemacs) `(and (featurep 'mule) (mm-xemacs-find-mime-charset-1 ,begin ,end)))) So on non-Mule systems, it won=E2=80=99t be touched, and there shouldn=E2= =80=99t be behavioural changes from the old code, which is as it should be. On fr.lettres.langue.francaise, there are subject lines like this from a participant using Gnus v5.10.7 on XEmacs 21.4.17 (from http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3Dm2wte3cbiw.fsf@baba.ba ): =3D?us-ascii?Q?=3D3D=3D3Fiso-8859-1=3D3Fq=3D3FRe=3D3A=3D5FEtymon=3D5F=3D5= B=3D3DE9?=3D =3D?us-ascii?Q?tait=3D5F=3D3A=3D5FRe=3D3A=3D5Fquestion=3D5Fd'un=3D5Fd=3D= 3DE9butant=3D5Fen=3D5Fd?=3D =3D?us-ascii?Q?actylographie=3D5D=3D3F=3D3D?=3D Which is broken, clearly (it=E2=80=99s a double encoding which shouldn=E2= =80=99t be happening).=20 However, I can=E2=80=99t reproduce that double encoding with 21.4.17, the= latest XEmacs package Gnus (and xemacs -vanilla) , and nor can I reproduce the described problem with RFC 2047-encoded user names not being decoded, the= y work fine for me (even ISO-8859-15 encoded names are decoded, which is probably broken.) If someone can come up with a more detailed recipe, I=E2= =80=99ll be happy to look into it. > If support of no-MULE XEmacs has been broken, it wasn't done on purpos= e > and as I wrote in my previous mail, I'm all for fixing it if someone > gives us an idea how to fix it. --=20 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And God was a bug-eyed, hexagonal smurf with a head of electrified hair; and God said: =E2=80=9CSi, mi chiamano Mimi...=E2=80=9D