* gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody
@ 1996-03-20 3:33 Roderick Schertler
1996-03-20 4:45 ` Muhammad Farrukh Khan
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From: Roderick Schertler @ 1996-03-20 3:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
When I respond to a mail message I practically always want to respond to
everybody who saw it (everybody in the From, To and Cc headers). I'm
surprised that September doesn't have a built-in way to do this. Did I
just miss it? I suspect this is the case because the lack just seems
too bizarre.
If not how about adding a pre-defined function for this the user can set
gnus-reply-to-function to?
(defun gnus-reply-to-everybody (group)
"Respond to everybody who saw the original message.
This function is meant as a possible value for gnus-reply-to-function
or gnus-followup-to-function."
(loop for c in `(("To" . ,(or (mail-fetch-field "reply-to")
(mail-fetch-field "from")))
("cc" . ,(mail-fetch-field "to"))
("cc" . ,(mail-fetch-field "cc")))
if (cdr c) collect c))
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Roderick Schertler
roderick@gate.net
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* Re: gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody
1996-03-20 3:33 gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody Roderick Schertler
@ 1996-03-20 4:45 ` Muhammad Farrukh Khan
1996-03-20 5:31 ` Roderick Schertler
1996-03-20 4:58 ` d. hall
1996-03-20 8:49 ` Kai Grossjohann
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From: Muhammad Farrukh Khan @ 1996-03-20 4:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
>
> When I respond to a mail message I practically always want to respond to
> everybody who saw it (everybody in the From, To and Cc headers). I'm
>
Try f or F.
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Muhammad Farrukh Khan, khan@cs.purdue.edu
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* Re: gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody
1996-03-20 4:45 ` Muhammad Farrukh Khan
@ 1996-03-20 5:31 ` Roderick Schertler
1996-03-20 8:53 ` Kai Grossjohann
1996-03-20 19:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Roderick Schertler @ 1996-03-20 5:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On 20 Mar 1996 00:02:00 -0500, khan@cs.purdue.edu (Muhammad Farrukh Khan) said:
>>
>> When I respond to a mail message I practically always want to respond to
>> everybody who saw it (everybody in the From, To and Cc headers). I'm
>>
>
> Try f or F.
This isn't appropriate in the general case. I gateway mailing lists
into actual local newsgroups (rather than reading mail groups in ding)
so that other local users can read them, and maintaining my own
to-address group parameter or the like seems silly when the proper
address is already right there in the To or Cc header.
--
Roderick Schertler
roderick@gate.net
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* Re: gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody
1996-03-20 5:31 ` Roderick Schertler
@ 1996-03-20 8:53 ` Kai Grossjohann
1996-03-20 19:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Kai Grossjohann @ 1996-03-20 8:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Muhammad Farrukh Khan, ding
>>>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 1996 00:31:00 -0500, Roderick Schertler
>>>>> <roderick@gate.net> said:
Roderick> This isn't appropriate in the general case. I gateway
Roderick> mailing lists into actual local newsgroups (rather than
Roderick> reading mail groups in ding) so that other local users can
Roderick> read them, and maintaining my own to-address group
Roderick> parameter or the like seems silly when the proper address
Roderick> is already right there in the To or Cc header.
Well, this is a special case. `F' works just fine for `real' news
postings and for `real' mail messages, but for news postings that are
really mail messages, you will of course see some strange behavior. I
suggest actually setting to-list (or was it to-address?) so that
follow-ups are not posted to the news group.
Or you could just ignore the problem and post the follow-ups to the
newsgroup as well as sending them by mail to all recipients. (The
latter will be done in all cases.)
kai
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* Re: gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody
1996-03-20 5:31 ` Roderick Schertler
1996-03-20 8:53 ` Kai Grossjohann
@ 1996-03-20 19:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-03-20 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
Roderick Schertler <roderick@gate.net> writes:
> This isn't appropriate in the general case. I gateway mailing lists
> into actual local newsgroups (rather than reading mail groups in ding)
> so that other local users can read them, and maintaining my own
> to-address group parameter or the like seems silly when the proper
> address is already right there in the To or Cc header.
Set `gnus-mailing-list-groups' to match the gatewayed groups. Then
`f' will give you the appropriate mail group behavior.
--
"Yes. The journey through the human heart
would have to wait until some other time."
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* Re: gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody
1996-03-20 3:33 gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody Roderick Schertler
1996-03-20 4:45 ` Muhammad Farrukh Khan
@ 1996-03-20 4:58 ` d. hall
1996-03-20 5:36 ` Roderick Schertler
1996-03-20 8:49 ` Kai Grossjohann
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: d. hall @ 1996-03-20 4:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
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Roderick> When I respond to a mail message I practically always want to
Roderick> respond to everybody who saw it (everybody in the From, To and Cc
Roderick> headers). I'm surprised that September doesn't have a built-in
Roderick> way to do this. Did I just miss it? I suspect this is the case
Roderick> because the lack just seems too bizarre.
Roderick> If not how about adding a pre-defined function for this the user
Roderick> can set gnus-reply-to-function to?
Uhm, I just did a follow-up and came up with both your name and the ding
list via the CC. Am I missing something in your email? The only header
that a follow-up won't reply to is the BCC (which is obvious) and it'll
follow-up to the newsgroup when in the news backend group.
d.
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* Re: gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody
1996-03-20 4:58 ` d. hall
@ 1996-03-20 5:36 ` Roderick Schertler
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From: Roderick Schertler @ 1996-03-20 5:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On 20 Mar 1996 00:02:02 -0500, dhall@illusion.apk.net (d. hall) said:
>
> Uhm, I just did a follow-up and came up with both your name and the ding
> list via the CC.
This is not the behavior I see with a nil gnus-reply-to-function, I get
replies going to the From: address only (it's placed in the To: header,
the cc: header isn't filled in). Perhaps this is another thing in
gnus-mh.el which needs fixing, I've got gnus-mail-method set to 'mh.
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Roderick Schertler
roderick@gate.net
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* Re: gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody
1996-03-20 3:33 gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody Roderick Schertler
1996-03-20 4:45 ` Muhammad Farrukh Khan
1996-03-20 4:58 ` d. hall
@ 1996-03-20 8:49 ` Kai Grossjohann
1996-03-20 22:49 ` Roderick Schertler
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Kai Grossjohann @ 1996-03-20 8:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
>>>>> On Tue, 19 Mar 1996 22:33:05 -0500, Roderick Schertler
>>>>> <roderick@gate.net> said:
Roderick> When I respond to a mail message I practically always want
Roderick> to respond to everybody who saw it (everybody in the From,
Roderick> To and Cc headers). I'm surprised that September doesn't
Roderick> have a built-in way to do this. Did I just miss it? I
Roderick> suspect this is the case because the lack just seems too
Roderick> bizarre.
Gnus has `replies' (which go to the sender only) and `follow-ups'
which go to all recipients of a mail or news article.
I did a follow-up (`F') on your article, and you can clearly see that
all recipients are added to the To and Cc headers of this message.
kai
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* Re: gnus-reply-to-function for replying to everybody
1996-03-20 8:49 ` Kai Grossjohann
@ 1996-03-20 22:49 ` Roderick Schertler
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Roderick Schertler @ 1996-03-20 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 20 Mar 1996 05:02:57 -0500, Kai Grossjohann <grossjoh@charly.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> said:
>
> Gnus has `replies' (which go to the sender only) and `follow-ups'
> which go to all recipients of a mail or news article.
Not yet having made the switch to reading any real mail with Gnus I had
still been thinking of the difference between R and F as that of mail vs
news rather than that of private vs public. Thanks, everybody, for
helping clear this up for me.
Later, Lars wrote:
>
> Set `gnus-mailing-list-groups' to match the gatewayed groups. Then
> `f' will give you the appropriate mail group behavior.
Good heavens, man, you've thought of everything.
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Roderick Schertler
roderick@gate.net
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