* gnus-fetch-field and gnus-fetch-original-field (was: `bbdb-message-header' can not fetch hidden fields in Gnus) [not found] ` <19910.60231.151907.922622@gargle.gargle.HOWL> @ 2011-05-09 7:05 ` Reiner Steib 2011-05-09 14:55 ` gnus-fetch-field and gnus-fetch-original-field Roland Winkler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2011-05-09 7:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roland Winkler; +Cc: ding, Leo, bbdb-info On Sun, May 08 2011, Roland Winkler wrote: > On Sun May 8 2011 Leo wrote: >> >> I am using latest No Gnus from Emacs-24 (trunk). It seems if a header >> field in Gnus is hidden, bbdb-message-header return nil. I don't know if >> this is intended. >> >> I use the following patch in my local BBDB copy. > > I am not a Gnus expert. gnus-fetch-field was used already by BBDB > v2. Is there someone reading this list who knows the (intended) > difference between gnus-fetch-field and gnus-fetch-original-field? [ Cc-ing ding@gnus. ] I don't know. The doc strings need improvement. > Well, the latter uses the undocumented internal variable > gnus-original-article-buffer. But what does this mean in real life? I guess `gnus-original-article-buffer' holds encoded content. Yes... (gnus-fetch-field "From") -> "... (Peter Münster)" (gnus-fetch-original-field "From") -> "... (Peter =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?=)" > Which headers are not available via gnus-fetch-field? As you might have guessed, this is customizable in Gnus. See (info "(gnus)Hiding Headers"). >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> lisp/bbdb-mua.el | 4 ++-- >> 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) [...] >> (let* ((mua (bbdb-mua)) >> - (val (cond ((eq mua 'gnus) (gnus-fetch-field header)) >> + (val (cond ((eq mua 'gnus) (gnus-fetch-original-field header)) >> ((eq mua 'vm) (bbdb/vm-header header)) >> ((eq mua 'rmail) (bbdb/rmail-header header)) >> ((eq mua 'mh) (bbdb/mh-header header)) >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-fetch-field and gnus-fetch-original-field 2011-05-09 7:05 ` gnus-fetch-field and gnus-fetch-original-field (was: `bbdb-message-header' can not fetch hidden fields in Gnus) Reiner Steib @ 2011-05-09 14:55 ` Roland Winkler 2011-05-09 16:32 ` Leo 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Roland Winkler @ 2011-05-09 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Reiner Steib; +Cc: Leo, ding, bbdb-info On Mon May 9 2011 Reiner Steib wrote: > > I am not a Gnus expert. gnus-fetch-field was used already by BBDB > > v2. Is there someone reading this list who knows the (intended) > > difference between gnus-fetch-field and gnus-fetch-original-field? > > [ Cc-ing ding@gnus. ] I don't know. The doc strings need > improvement. > > > Well, the latter uses the undocumented internal variable > > gnus-original-article-buffer. But what does this mean in real life? > > I guess `gnus-original-article-buffer' holds encoded content. > Yes... Thanks, So it would not make sense if BBDB was using the encoded headers. If it's guaranteed that headers returned by gnus-fetch-field are already decoded, it is not even necessary that bbdb-message-header calls mail-decode-encoded-word-string for these headers. > > Which headers are not available via gnus-fetch-field? > > As you might have guessed, this is customizable in Gnus. See (info > "(gnus)Hiding Headers"). But that's strange: by default, gnus-visible-headers includes the organization header. Leo started this thread because gnus-fetch-field did not return it. So what's happening here? Leo, have you possibly customized the value of this variable? Roland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd _______________________________________________ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-fetch-field and gnus-fetch-original-field 2011-05-09 14:55 ` gnus-fetch-field and gnus-fetch-original-field Roland Winkler @ 2011-05-09 16:32 ` Leo 0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: Leo @ 2011-05-09 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: bbdb-info; +Cc: ding On 2011-05-09 22:55 +0800, Roland Winkler wrote: > But that's strange: by default, gnus-visible-headers includes the > organization header. Leo started this thread because > gnus-fetch-field did not return it. So what's happening here? > > Leo, have you possibly customized the value of this variable? I should be more specific, I meant (bbdb-message-header "Message-ID") returns nil in bbdb-mua-update-records. Leo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd _______________________________________________ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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