From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/5208 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Steven L. Baur" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: (unknown) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:26:34 -0800 Message-ID: <199602212326.PAA18599@deanna.miranova.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035145847 32132 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:30:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA19040 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:03:45 -0800 Original-Received: from deanna.miranova.com (steve@miranova.com [204.212.162.100]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:27:04 +0100 Original-Received: (from steve@localhost) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) id PAA18599 for ding@ifi.uio.no; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:26:34 -0800 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:5208 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:5208 Sender: steve@deanna.miranova.com To: ding@ifi.uio.no Subject: Re: Connecting to a newsserver with nntp. X-Url: http://www.miranova.com/%7Esteve/ References: <9602211956.AA09060@tito.cygnus.com> From: Steven L Baur Date: 21 Feb 1996 15:26:31 -0800 In-Reply-To: pp@pfawww.pp.se's message of 21 Feb 1996 12:19:07 -0800 Message-ID: Organization: Miranova Systems, Inc. Lines: 32 X-Mailer: September Gnus v0.40/XEmacs 19.13 Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.43) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>>>> "Per" == Per Persson writes: eichin@cygnus.com writes: >> Just note that ping isn't reliable (for example, if I can get to the >> nntp server though a firewall without being able to ping the host, it >> should still let me...) though that just means it should be >> optional... what could another variable hurt :-) >>>>> "Greg" == Greg Stark writes: Greg> There are lots of problems with trying to determine if the host Greg> is up through some other mechinism like ping. Trusting two Greg> different protocols to agree about whether the host is available Greg> is going to be inherently unreliable. Yes. The machine we get news on here is frequently pingable but refuses nntp connections. The only way to really know for sure is to try it. Another example of the same thing is reading news through a proxy, you may be able to ping the proxy machine and connect to the nntp port of the proxy, but still not be able to get any news. Per> Hey this is emacs! Per> gnus-use-ping If we want to use ping. Per> gnus-ping-command-list Which ping to use. ... Cool. I suppose you'll have gnus-ping.el ready by 1-April? :-) -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be proofread for $250/hour. Andrea Seastrand: For your vote on the Telecom bill, I will vote for anyone except you in November.