From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/5242 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: davida@lsl.co.uk (David Allen) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus and GroupLens Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:27:20 GMT Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd Message-ID: <199602231527.PAA08009@lsls4e.lsl.co.uk> References: <199602231142.LAA28047@lsls4e.lsl.co.uk> Reply-To: davida@lsl.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.41) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035145875 32238 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:31:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Gnus v5 mailing list Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA06307 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:23:12 -0800 Original-Received: from relay.lsl.co.uk (relay.lsl.co.uk [194.131.253.1]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:28:33 +0100 Original-Received: by relay.lsl.co.uk (5.x/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA26660; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:29:15 GMT Original-Received: from unknown(192.9.200.198) by relay via smap (V1.3) id sma026596; Fri Feb 23 15:28:49 1996 Original-Received: from lsls4e.lsl.co.uk by lslm3e.lsl.co.uk (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:25:13 GMT Original-Received: by lsls4e.lsl.co.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA08009; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:27:20 GMT Original-To: bmiller@cs.umn.edu (Brad Miller) In-Reply-To: X-Face: /k9[7M)9_BsD}+\f|;$hkRQmn&]!h$OYLYOR&O'quH]zGyaRSjR'P[jI1cg6I#k}A5VwNn! @rrOKFPH Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:5242 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:5242 >>>>> "Brad" == Brad Miller writes: >>>>> "David" == David Allen writes: David> Two problems: David> 1) When trying to enter a GroupLens enhanced group I get David> Symbol's function definition is void: make-local-hook I see David> this is also used in custom.el, but protected by (if David> (fboundp 'make-local-hook)) Presumably this function is not David> in XEmacs (yet). Retrying seems to (usually) enter the David> group successfully. Brad> Hmmm, But I have my doubts about whether your ratings are Brad> actually getting sent to the BBB when you exit the Brad> group..... You may want to use: (add-hook Brad> 'gnus-exit-group-hook 'bbb-put-ratings) until I fix this Brad> properly. Well, it says "Sending Ratings...Done" when I quit the group. I don't know that I can check whether they are actually getting there. Brad> make-local-hook, is supported in xemacs-19.14 Roll on the day ... David> 2) Trying to enter the group the next day fails with David> timeout errors, presumably retrieving the GroupLens scores. David> Quitting and restarting Gnus fixed this. Brad> The BBB has a three hour inactivity timer on your login Brad> token. If you haven't sent any ratings or received any Brad> predictions for more than 3 hours, you should see a message Brad> telling you to log-in. Just M-x bbb-login will do the Brad> trick. OK. The symptoms I were seeing involved a message that mentioned timeout that was very quickly overwritten so I wasn't sure what had happened. I'll check this out next time it times out. Interestingly, the first day I started using GroupLens, most of the articles in the GroupLens groups had predictions. Today, none of the new articles seem to have predictions (I can still see the predictions for old articles). Presumably, with GroupLens you should be able to read only articles with high predictions (plus any you might select for other reasons). You will then only be rating a relatively small number of articles. Do you expect that with a large user community, each user will only need to rate a very small percentage of articles but there will still be enough ratings for the system to work well? Again, thanks for GroupLens. David -- David Allen (davida@lsl.co.uk) Laser-Scan Ltd, Principal Software Engineer Science Park, Milton Road Tel: 01223 420414 Fax: 01223 420044 Cambridge, CB4 4FY, UK