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Original-To: abraham@dina.kvl.dk (Per Abrahamsen)
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Per Abrahamsen writes:
> 
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> Since
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> - Custom 1.0 is now released and bundled with Red Gnus 0.66.

I tried the latest version (2 hours ago on the Web site), and it still
does nothing for me.

I tried to use `customize' to customize `widget'. The interface still
stinks, (how am I supposed to interprete all these [!] and the colors
changing on the fly? Do you suppose that a user with many years of
experience would read the docs? Do you suppose that a user without
many years of experience would read the docs, btw? ;-)

Anyway, I could easily change the colors (except these "unactive"
buttons, like "Mode hook"). I pressed "Apply" and it did apply, I
pressed "Set default" and nothing happened (as I expected), I pressed
"Save" and it wrote "Writing ~/.emacs.custom" (as it should).

This is all. New copies of emacs do not have any customizations in
them, and the contents of ~/.emacs.custom is quite pityful:

(custom-set-variables
 '(custom-file "~/.emacs.custom"))
(custom-set-faces)

Is it how it is supposed to work? If yes, what is the point in the
package? It is OS/2 19.33.

My less important remarks: 
	[!], colors of [+], (A line at the top with 2-word
		explanations? Shown by default, switchable off?)
		(Or maybe just an entry "About" ("mini help"?) 
		before "emacs"?)
	Color of "dead buttons";
	There should be a [Quit] choice.

Best,
Ilya