From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/11344 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vladimir Alexiev Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Clarification on bindings Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:07:38 -0600 Message-ID: <19970611210749Z13059-28934+106@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035151068 29721 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:57:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from sandy.calag.com (root@sandy [206.190.83.128]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21988 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:29:30 -0700 Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by sandy.calag.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04120 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:29:45 -0700 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08648 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:29:05 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 23:08:39 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 24586 invoked by uid 504); 11 Jun 1997 21:08:34 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24583 invoked from network); 11 Jun 1997 21:08:27 -0000 Original-Received: from scapa.cs.ualberta.ca (root@129.128.4.44) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 1997 21:08:27 -0000 Original-Received: from vladimir@localhost (fake: tees.cs.ualberta.ca) by scapa.cs.ualberta.ca id <13059-28934>; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:07:49 -0600 Original-To: larsi@ifi.uio.no In-reply-to: (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on 11 Jun 1997 19:30:29 +0200) Original-Lines: 68 Original-Xref: altair.xemacs.org dgnus-list:1734 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11344 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11344 > > To: gnus@gnus.org > Did you mean to send this to ding@gnus.org? Yes. Should I resend it? I see you've answered most of my questions. > I don't think many bindings have been removed... The deprecated > bindings aren't generally documented, though- Hmmm. Then perhaps I should not list them in the refcard either. Actually I think that if they're deprecated, they should go. Does anyone object? > > transient-mark-mode is set %FIXME: how about zmacs-regions? > Under XEmacs it uses `region-active-p'. I'm not sure if that relates > to zmacs-regions or not... "If `zmacs-regions' is true, this is equivalent to `region-exists-p'. Otherwise, this function always returns false." Great, then I'll mention it in the refcard. > > ;; I mean here "Is the `M !' binding really gone?" > No, but I don't think anyone uses it. So I guess I shouldn't list it either. > > DEL & Scroll this article one page back. [distance]\\ %FIXME (A DEL, A p, b) Perhaps only `b' here "merits publication". > > \& & Execute a command on all articles matching a regexp.\\ > > %FIXME [Prefix: move backwards.]\\ > Yup. Fix the manual then. > > k & Give a GroupLens {\bf rating} (1-5) to this thread.\\ > > %FIXME: how about the kill-thread binding? > It's shadowed in buffers which have the grouplens minor mode. Did I mention I find the GL bindings overly peculiar? > > ;; there should be only two, `V g' give GL rating to this article, and `V > > ;; G' give GL rating to this thread. > it's important that the GroupLens key bindings be really simple, since > people are meant to be hitting those keys all the time. Hmmm. What do others think? > Ooops. I've now moved pop to `G o'. Ok. > > O o & (o) Save this article using the default article saver. [p/p]\\ %FIXME: C-o > > O p & Pipe this article to a shell command. [p/p]\\ %FIXME: | ($\mid$) > > S o m & Forward this article by {\bf mail} to a person. [Prefix: include > > full headers]\\ %FIXME (C-c C-f) I'll list C-o, | and C-c C-f. I like them. > > %FIXME what's a wide reply? message.info doesn't describe it either > It's a reply to all addresses listed in the From (or Reply-To), To, and Cc > headers. I suspected that much :-) Amend the message manual to mention that the default implementation of the wide reply function does that. > > T T & {\bf Toggle} threading.\\ %FIXME (M-C-t) > > W l & Remove page breaks ({\bf^L}).\\ %FIXME (w) > > W r & Caesar-{\bf rotate} (rot13 decode).\\ %FIXME (C-c C-r) > > W t & {\bf Toggle} the displaying of all headers.\\ %FIXME (t) > > W v & Toggle permanent {\bf verbose} displaying of all headers.\\ %FIXME (v) I'll list all these. Basically, I'll list the bindings that are not clearly "subsumed" by other bindings: nobody would use M # if they have #. > > %FIXME: are X b and X o really gone? > Nope. I've now documented them. Ok. What exactly does X o do, simply assemble the series? Thanks for the response!