From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/13364 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Guido Van Hoecke Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Problems when switching from vm to gnus Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:18:23 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <199712302318.AAA17476@btmplq.god.bel.alcatel.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035152744 8909 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:25:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10776 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:03:56 -0800 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (root@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA08531 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:04:45 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAO29873; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:04:55 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:02:43 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29860 for ding@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:02:38 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA27507 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:19:49 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 2088 invoked by uid 504); 30 Dec 1997 23:19:37 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 2085 invoked from network); 30 Dec 1997 23:19:36 -0000 Original-Received: from gatekeeper.alcatel.be (HELO btmplq.god.bel.alcatel.be) (138.203.244.2) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 1997 23:19:36 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by btmplq.god.bel.alcatel.be (8.6.5/8.6.5) id AAA17476 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:18:23 +0100 Original-Received: from se9ws1.sebb.bel.alcatel.be(138.203.168.1) by btmplq via smap (V1.3) id smaa17465; Wed Dec 31 00:18:18 1997 Original-To: Gnus mailing list , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:13364 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:13364 Hi, I am considering to use gnus for reading mail. I started by declaring my current vm folders to gnus with following .gnus file: (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnfolder ""))) (setq nnfolder-directory "~/nsmail/") (setq nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) I started gnus, issued ^ to go to the server buffer, did find an nnfolder server, issued a 'g' to regenerate the folder, and a 'q' to return to the groups buffer, issued an 'F' to find my newly generated folders, and bingo: there they were. However, looking at one of the folders, gnus told me it has 26 messages, whereas vm tells me there are 36 messages in the folder.!?? Some of these messages have large bas64 encoded binary attachments, but I imagine that gnus should be able to handle that? A second problem is that it did not find all the existing folders. Some folders that are perfectly readable by vm, just do not appear in the list of generated folders. The active file contains a number of entries for folders called "nil". The nsmail directory contains .~n~ backup files for most folders, but again, I would have hoped that this would not upset nor desorient gnus. I append a directory listing, the active file and a part of the generated .newsrc.eld file. I hope that this may help to come up with some pointers about this funny behavior. Guido. The directory content: total 179340 drwx------ 2 hoeckeg we2 2560 Dec 29 00:35 . drwxr-xr-x 46 hoeckeg we2 6144 Dec 29 00:40 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 hoeckeg we2 69 Dec 26 20:41 .dired -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 422397 Dec 29 00:35 Inbox -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 417438 Dec 28 23:08 Inbox.~112~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 446280 Dec 29 00:25 Inbox.~113~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 284611 Nov 18 16:11 Inbox.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 5335869 Dec 8 16:06 Inbox.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 627 Dec 23 11:27 Sent.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 3050812 Nov 17 10:14 actie.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 2375439 Dec 1 13:29 actie.~2~ -rw-r--r-- 1 hoeckeg we2 478 Dec 29 00:30 active -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 6142 Nov 17 10:13 anchordesk.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 438086 Dec 29 00:05 bbdb -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 411409 Dec 11 09:51 bbdb.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 425355 Dec 12 23:41 bbdb.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 437878 Dec 24 13:16 bbdb.~3~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1774 Dec 8 15:15 drafts.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1836 Dec 17 23:51 drafts.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1461075 Dec 29 00:05 emacs -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 27340 Nov 17 22:04 emacs.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 847007 Dec 11 15:20 emacs.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1456017 Dec 27 21:13 emacs.~8~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1459153 Dec 28 18:07 emacs.~9~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 84511 Dec 17 23:52 familie -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 9213 Nov 17 08:15 familie.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 84447 Dec 11 23:30 familie.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 2084115 Dec 29 00:06 filemgtneos -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 959939 Nov 10 21:02 filemgtneos.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1666098 Nov 26 10:41 filemgtneos.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 2019926 Dec 18 13:40 filemgtneos.~8~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 2083488 Dec 22 20:49 filemgtneos.~9~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1238238 Dec 29 00:06 gnus -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1206 Nov 17 19:47 gnus.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1141237 Dec 12 22:51 gnus.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1237906 Dec 19 21:17 gnus.~3~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 105368 Dec 29 00:06 laughs -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 34829 Nov 16 11:20 laughs.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 80738 Dec 17 14:33 laughs.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 105057 Dec 27 00:15 laughs.~3~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 12943 Dec 17 23:52 lijntest -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 11370 Nov 6 09:56 lijntest.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 12881 Dec 5 07:28 lijntest.~2~ -rw-r--r-- 1 hoeckeg we2 37761 Dec 18 00:54 mail.misc.~1~ -rw-r--r-- 1 hoeckeg we2 61666 Dec 18 01:15 mail.misc.~2~ -rw-r--r-- 1 hoeckeg we2 63513 Dec 18 01:28 mail.misc.~3~ -rw-r--r-- 1 hoeckeg we2 66902 Dec 18 01:45 mail.misc.~4~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 10661 Nov 19 09:23 meetings -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 7028 Nov 14 21:50 meetings.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 262732 Dec 17 23:52 memento -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 243908 Nov 6 22:19 memento.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 262545 Dec 1 13:38 memento.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1941527 Dec 29 00:06 newsmail -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1571589 Dec 17 14:38 newsmail.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1917569 Dec 23 08:14 newsmail.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1940516 Dec 23 10:39 newsmail.~3~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 5986 Nov 17 20:30 ntemacs-users.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 21727 Dec 17 22:17 personeelszaken -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 3194 Nov 13 11:43 personeelszaken.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 21541 Dec 5 09:47 personeelszaken.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 13665 Nov 19 09:25 persoverzicht -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 29775 Nov 18 22:34 redherring -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 29650 Nov 14 21:56 redherring.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 13721554 Dec 29 00:06 sent -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 809943 Nov 6 20:28 sent.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 13183857 Dec 9 14:30 sent.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 13448037 Dec 22 11:37 sent.~7~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 13719552 Dec 28 22:57 sent.~8~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 29958 Dec 17 23:53 software -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 29832 Nov 19 10:49 software.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 276239 Dec 17 22:17 spruiten -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 269954 Nov 17 08:14 spruiten.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 276054 Dec 1 13:29 spruiten.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 8875 Nov 19 09:32 tourbus -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 9225149 Dec 29 00:29 trunktest -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 9225135 Dec 29 00:07 trunktest.~12~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 9225142 Dec 29 00:14 trunktest.~13~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 3976756 Nov 7 13:43 trunktest.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 9186610 Dec 10 15:54 trunktest.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 2408934 Dec 29 00:07 varia -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 24927 Nov 17 15:39 varia.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 2008812 Dec 16 20:57 varia.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 2400502 Dec 22 09:07 varia.~4~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 2408314 Dec 23 10:40 varia.~5~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 7961503 Dec 27 19:42 ve -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 4764808 Nov 17 18:16 ve.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 5723941 Dec 10 15:50 ve.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 5783186 Dec 12 12:12 ve.~7~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 5980759 Dec 16 20:03 ve.~8~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 1076847 Dec 26 23:56 vim -rw-r--r-- 1 hoeckeg we2 120141 Dec 8 13:33 vim.~1~ -rw-r--r-- 1 hoeckeg we2 475522 Dec 10 20:30 vim.~2~ -rw-r--r-- 1 hoeckeg we2 1025022 Dec 19 21:24 vim.~4~ -rw-r--r-- 1 hoeckeg we2 1025036 Dec 22 09:07 vim.~5~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 705698 Dec 18 09:28 woodys_office_watch -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 506961 Nov 16 11:28 woodys_office_watch.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 670626 Dec 10 14:04 woodys_office_watch.~2~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 111558 Dec 29 00:07 xemacs -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 110101 Dec 9 13:18 xemacs.~1~ -rw------- 1 hoeckeg we2 110100 Dec 27 00:44 xemacs.~2~ The content of the active file: nil 24 1 y xemacs 0 1 y woodys_office_watch 46 1 y ve 49 1 y varia 15 1 y trunktest 26 1 y tourbus 30 30 y software 2 1 y sent 361 1 y personeelszaken 3 1 y newsmail 92 1 y lijntest 3 1 y laughs 9 1 y gnus 283 1 y filemgtneos 38 1 y nil 32 1 y nil 4 1 y nil 17 1 y Inbox 0 1 y bbdb 36 1 y emacs 247 1 y familie 6 1 y nil 10 1 y nil 6 1 y nil 5 1 y meetings 41 1 y memento 42 1 y nil 16 1 y persoverzicht 33 33 y redherring 2 1 y nil 32 1 y spruiten 996 1 y nil 7 1 y nil 10 1 y The (flowed) content of the ~/.newsrc.eld file: ;; -*- emacs-lisp -*- ;; Gnus startup file. ;; Never delete this file - touch .newsrc instead to force Gnus ;; to read .newsrc. (setq gnus-newsrc-file-version "Gnus v5.5") (setq gnus-newsrc-last-checked-date '"Mon Dec 29 00:09:02 1997") (setq gnus-newsrc-alist '(("nnfolder:Inbox" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:bbdb" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:gnus" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:laughs" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:lijntest" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:meetings" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:newsmail" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:personeelszaken" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:redherring" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:trunktest" 3 ((1 . 2)) nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:ve" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:woodys_office_watch" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:xemacs" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:filemgtneos" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:sent" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:spruiten" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:varia" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:emacs" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:familie" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:memento" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:nil" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:software" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:tourbus" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("nnfolder:persoverzicht" 3 nil nil (nnfolder "")) ("news.announce.newusers" 6 nil) ("news.groups.questions" 6 nil) ("gnu.emacs.gnus" 3 ((1 . 11631) (11633 . 11634) (11638 . 11639) 11642 11649 (11663 . 11665) (11667 . 11669) 11671 11675 11682 (11688 . 11689) 11701 11705 11710 (11741 . 11742) 11744 (11746 . 11747) 11761 11814)) ("comp.emacs.xemacs" 3 ((1 . 26443))))) (setq gnus-killed-list '("alcatel.alcanet" [.... removed all newsgroups that were in this list ...] "vmsnet.vms-posix")) (setq gnus-format-specs '((article-mode "Gnus: %%b %S" (concat (format "Gnus: %%b %s" gnus-tmp-subject))) (summary-dummy "* %(: :%) %S\n" (progn (insert "* ") (gnus-put-text-property (point) (progn (insert ": :") (point)) gnus-mouse-face-prop gnus-mouse-face) (insert " " gnus-tmp-subject "\n"))) (summary-mode "Gnus: %%b [%A] %Z" (concat (format "Gnus: %%b [%d] %s" gnus-tmp-article-number gnus-tmp-unread-and-unselected))) (summary "%U%R%z%I%(%[%4L: %-20,20n%]%) %s\n" (progn (insert gnus-tmp-unread gnus-tmp-replied gnus-tmp-score-char gnus-tmp-indentation) (gnus-put-text-property (point) (progn (insert (format "%c%4d: %-20s%c" gnus-tmp-opening-bracket gnus-tmp-lines (if (> (length gnus-tmp-name) 20) (substring gnus-tmp-name 0 20) gnus-tmp-name) gnus-tmp-closing-bracket)) (point)) gnus-mouse-face-prop gnus-mouse-face) (insert " " gnus-tmp-subject-or-nil "\n"))) (group-mode "Gnus: %%b {%M%:%S}" (concat (format "Gnus: %%b {%s%s%s}" gnus-tmp-news-method gnus-tmp-colon gnus-tmp-news-server))) (group "%M%S%p%P%5y: %(%g%)%l\n" (progn (insert (format "%c%c%c%s%5s: " gnus-tmp-marked-mark gnus-tmp-subscribed gnus-tmp-process-marked gnus-group-indentation gnus-tmp-number-of-unread)) (gnus-put-text-property (point) (progn (insert gnus-tmp-group) (point)) gnus-mouse-face-prop gnus-mouse-face) (insert gnus-tmp-grouplens "\n"))) (version . "20.3 \"Vatican City\" XEmacs Lucid")))