From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/13420 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Moreno Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [John Moreno ] Re: GNKSA and Gnus Date: Sun, 4 Jan 98 16:45:46 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <199801042144.QAA15732@mail.interpath.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035152791 9236 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:26:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: , "Karl-Johan Noren" Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28487 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 13:49:07 -0800 Original-Received: from farabi.hpc.uh.edu (farabi.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03839 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 15:49:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@[10.1.1.1]) by farabi.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAN16098; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 23:55:02 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 04 Jan 1998 15:47:04 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00787 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 15:46:57 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 29709 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jan 1998 21:46:46 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 29706 invoked from network); 4 Jan 1998 21:46:45 -0000 Original-Received: from mail.interpath.net (199.72.1.13) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 1998 21:46:45 -0000 Original-Received: from [199.72.206.189] (roxboro-189.interpath.net [199.72.206.189]) by mail.interpath.net (8.8.8/v1.0) with SMTP id QAA15732; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:44:47 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0 x49, February 10, 1997 Original-To: "Kai Grossjohann" , "Russ Allbery" Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:13420 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:13420 Kai Grossjohann wrote: >>>>> On 04 Jan 1998, Russ Allbery said: > > GNKSA> 10e Does not let the user indicate which part to followup to > > Russ> This is nonsensical. In the entire time that I've been > Russ> reading and posting to Usenet, I've never had a need for any > Russ> such thing, or even have any coherent idea how one would *do* > Russ> such a thing. It sounds to me like a broken attempt to encode > Russ> etiqutte that requires human intervention and forethought > Russ> (namely, snipping unneeded quoted material) into software. > Russ> Efforts of that sort are invariably doomed to failure. It is a attempt to have software FACILITATE using the correct etiquette. It means that software should provide a method which allows the human to do the right thing quickly and easily. >Maybe they're talking about digests? I found the feature of TM to be >able to hit "a" (or was it "f") on the header line of a submessage >quite useful. It was a MIME multipart message with a message/rfc822 >part, I think, where I found that useful. > >As the evaluation form doesn't really say, and I like to see the good >things in people... :-) > >I would like to see the signature omitting stuff, though. It's not talking specifically about digests - but this would be a VERY good feature and is right in line with the spirit of the GNKSA and this suggestion (it's not a requirement to get the seal). More typically it means allowing the user to select a portion of the message and then have the agent reply with only that part of the message being included as quoted text. I'd demonstrate on this message but I think everything here needs to be left in. It is frequently used in conjunction with omitting the sig - i.e. to reply to the whole message including the sig just select the whole message and then reply. -- John Moreno