* Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group @ 1998-03-09 17:45 Kris Boulez 1998-03-13 21:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Kris Boulez @ 1998-03-09 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw) Hello, I'm trying to use Gnus 5.5 and have the problem that when I enter a group, it tells me that there are no new articles. Although on entering the group it tells me there are x articles and he says "fetching headers". In the status window at the bottom some messages pass by very quickly and then "No unread news". When I enter the group with M-C-return I get all the articles. Can someone give me a clue in which direction to start looking, or how I can see all the status messages that pass by ? P.S. When answering, can you CC me in the mail as I'm (not yet) on the mailing list. Kris, -- Kris Boulez kris@belbone.be ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-09 17:45 Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group Kris Boulez @ 1998-03-13 21:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1998-03-13 23:43 ` Stefanie Teufel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-03-13 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Kris Boulez Kris Boulez <kris@belbone.be> writes: > I'm trying to use Gnus 5.5 and have the problem that when I enter a > group, it tells me that there are no new articles. Although on entering > the group it tells me there are x articles and he says "fetching headers". > In the status window at the bottom some messages pass by very quickly > and then "No unread news". Perhaps all the articles were cancelled? > Can someone give me a clue in which direction to start looking, or how > I can see all the status messages that pass by ? Switch the "*Messages*" buffer. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-13 21:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-03-13 23:43 ` Stefanie Teufel 1998-03-14 7:29 ` Eze Ogwuma ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Stefanie Teufel @ 1998-03-13 23:43 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Kris Boulez On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:24:34PM +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Kris Boulez <kris@belbone.be> writes: > > > I'm trying to use Gnus 5.5 and have the problem that when I enter a > > group, it tells me that there are no new articles. Although on entering > > the group it tells me there are x articles and he says "fetching headers". > > In the status window at the bottom some messages pass by very quickly > > and then "No unread news". > > Perhaps all the articles were cancelled? No, I encounter a similar problem from time to time in gnus 5.6.2. Gnus shows me in the group summary buffer, that there are x new articles in a group, but doesn't display them at all, when I enter the certain group. But there are definitly on my system, because I can access them in tin or any other newsreader. Any hints what's wrong here? happy weekend and TIA, Stefanie ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-13 23:43 ` Stefanie Teufel @ 1998-03-14 7:29 ` Eze Ogwuma 1998-03-16 8:14 ` Kris Boulez 1998-03-19 12:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-03-14 7:29 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, ding, Kris Boulez Stefanie Teufel <s.teufel@ndh.net> writes: > On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:24:34PM +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > Kris Boulez <kris@belbone.be> writes: > > > > > I'm trying to use Gnus 5.5 and have the problem that when I enter a > > > group, it tells me that there are no new articles. Although on entering > > > the group it tells me there are x articles and he says "fetching headers". > > > In the status window at the bottom some messages pass by very quickly > > > and then "No unread news". > > > > Perhaps all the articles were cancelled? > > No, I encounter a similar problem from time to time in gnus 5.6.2. Gnus > shows me in the group summary buffer, that there are x new articles in > a group, but doesn't display them at all, when I enter the certain > group. But there are definitly on my system, because I can access them > in tin or any other newsreader. > > Any hints what's wrong here? Lars, Could this be the "other-servers cached articles" problem again? -- Eze Ogwuma ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-13 23:43 ` Stefanie Teufel 1998-03-14 7:29 ` Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-03-16 8:14 ` Kris Boulez 1998-03-19 12:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Kris Boulez @ 1998-03-16 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Kris Boulez Quoting Stefanie Teufel (s.teufel@ndh.net): > On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:24:34PM +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > Kris Boulez <kris@belbone.be> writes: > > > > > I'm trying to use Gnus 5.5 and have the problem that when I enter a > > > group, it tells me that there are no new articles. Although on entering > > > the group it tells me there are x articles and he says "fetching headers". > > > In the status window at the bottom some messages pass by very quickly > > > and then "No unread news". > > > > Perhaps all the articles were cancelled? > > No, I encounter a similar problem from time to time in gnus 5.6.2. Gnus > shows me in the group summary buffer, that there are x new articles in > a group, but doesn't display them at all, when I enter the certain > group. But there are definitly on my system, because I can access them > in tin or any other newsreader. > That's exactly what I see as well, with tin I can read without any problem. Kris, -- Kris Boulez kris@belbone.be ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-13 23:43 ` Stefanie Teufel 1998-03-14 7:29 ` Eze Ogwuma 1998-03-16 8:14 ` Kris Boulez @ 1998-03-19 12:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1998-03-19 15:16 ` Stefanie Teufel 2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-03-19 12:10 UTC (permalink / raw) Stefanie Teufel <s.teufel@ndh.net> writes: > No, I encounter a similar problem from time to time in gnus 5.6.2. Gnus > shows me in the group summary buffer, that there are x new articles in > a group, but doesn't display them at all, when I enter the certain > group. But there are definitly on my system, because I can access them > in tin or any other newsreader. Hm. Is this with nntp groups or nnspool groups? And does `/ w' show any of the missing articles? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-19 12:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-03-19 15:16 ` Stefanie Teufel 1998-03-20 17:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Stefanie Teufel @ 1998-03-19 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw) On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 01:10:06PM +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Stefanie Teufel <s.teufel@ndh.net> writes: > > > No, I encounter a similar problem from time to time in gnus 5.6.2. > > Gnus shows me in the group summary buffer, that there are x new > > articles in a group, but doesn't display them at all, when I enter > > the certain group. But there are definitly on my system, because I > > can access them in tin or any other newsreader. > > Hm. Is this with nntp groups or nnspool groups? And does / w' show > any of the missing articles? It is with nnspool groups. My gnus.el looks like the following: (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "diabolo.ndh.net")) (setq gnus-refer-article-method '(nntp "diabolo.ndh.net")) (setq nnspool-inews-program '"/usr/bin/inews") (setq nnspool-spool-directory '"/var/spool/news" nnspool-lib-dir '"/var/lib/news" nnspool-nov-directory '"/var/spool/news/over.view" nnspool-active-file '"/var/lib/news/active" nnspool-active-times-file '"/var/lib/news/active.times" nnspool-history-file '"/var/lib/news/history") (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "stefanie" (nnml-directory "~/mail/") (nnml-active-file "~/mail/active") (nnml-newsgroups-file "~/mail/newsgroups")))) (setq gnus-article-save-directory "~/news/") (setq gnus-directory "~/news/" gnus-home-score-file 'gnus-hierarchial-home-score-file nnml-directory "~/mail/" nnml-active-file "~/mail/active" nnml-newsgroups-file "~/mail/newsgroups") (setq gnus-kill-files-directory (concat gnus-directory "score/")) To press "/ w" seems to have no effect. The only thing I can do, is to leave the group and use "c". The next time at least the new messages are available. Stefanie, as always without a clue... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-19 15:16 ` Stefanie Teufel @ 1998-03-20 17:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1998-03-20 18:10 ` Stefanie Teufel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-03-20 17:48 UTC (permalink / raw) Stefanie Teufel <s.teufel@ndh.net> writes: > > > No, I encounter a similar problem from time to time in gnus 5.6.2. > > > Gnus shows me in the group summary buffer, that there are x new > > > articles in a group, but doesn't display them at all, when I enter > > > the certain group. But there are definitly on my system, because I > > > can access them in tin or any other newsreader. > > > > Hm. Is this with nntp groups or nnspool groups? And does / w' show > > any of the missing articles? > > It is with nnspool groups. Right. And the news spool is mounted over NFS? Then you are experiencing the Emacs `directory-files' bug. It also means that nnspool doesn't find the .overview files for the group. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-20 17:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-03-20 18:10 ` Stefanie Teufel 1998-03-21 18:59 ` Steinar Bang 1998-03-23 13:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Stefanie Teufel @ 1998-03-20 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw) On Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 06:48:44PM +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Stefanie Teufel <s.teufel@ndh.net> writes: > > > > > No, I encounter a similar problem from time to time in gnus 5.6.2. > > > > Gnus shows me in the group summary buffer, that there are x new > > > > articles in a group, but doesn't display them at all, when I enter > > > > the certain group. But there are definitly on my system, because I > > > > can access them in tin or any other newsreader. > > > > > > Hm. Is this with nntp groups or nnspool groups? And does / w' show > > > any of the missing articles? > > > > It is with nnspool groups. > > Right. And the news spool is mounted over NFS? Then you are Nope. Perhaps I don't understanding you correctly, but my newsspool resides on a normal Linux native partition and I am running leafnode 1.4. as my local newsserver, because it's only a single user system. I read about problems relating to leafnode, though I thought they just occured with earlier versions? > experiencing the Emacs `directory-files' bug. It also means that > nnspool doesn't find the .overview files for the group. No, I never encounter any problems with my .overview files or to put it so I was never aware of any. still with articles in gnus missing, Stefanie ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-20 18:10 ` Stefanie Teufel @ 1998-03-21 18:59 ` Steinar Bang 1998-03-21 22:09 ` Stefanie Teufel 1998-03-23 13:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Steinar Bang @ 1998-03-21 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> Stefanie Teufel <s.teufel@ndh.net>: > Nope. Perhaps I don't understanding you correctly, but my newsspool > resides on a normal Linux native partition and I am running leafnode 1.4. > as my local newsserver, because it's only a single user system. I read > about problems relating to leafnode, though I thought they just occured > with earlier versions? If you read a newsspool maintained with leafnode, using nnspool, how does leafnode know what to fetch, and what to continue to fetch? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-21 18:59 ` Steinar Bang @ 1998-03-21 22:09 ` Stefanie Teufel 1998-03-22 17:55 ` Steinar Bang 1998-03-22 18:37 ` Kai Grossjohann 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Stefanie Teufel @ 1998-03-21 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw) On Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 07:59:57PM +0100, Steinar Bang wrote: > >>>>> Stefanie Teufel <s.teufel@ndh.net>: > > > Nope. Perhaps I don't understanding you correctly, but my newsspool > > resides on a normal Linux native partition and I am running leafnode 1.4. > > as my local newsserver, because it's only a single user system. I read > > about problems relating to leafnode, though I thought they just occured > > with earlier versions? > > If you read a newsspool maintained with leafnode, using nnspool, how > does leafnode know what to fetch, and what to continue to fetch? Leafnode itself is the NNTP server. It talks to your news client, and stores readership data. Fetch (which comes with leafnode) is the NNTP news-gatherer. It looks at the readership data Leafnode stores, and selects what groups to pull news from. In addition /var/spool/news contains the news articles with subdirectories for each group. Each of these directories contain the articles in numbered files (decimal numbers, monotonically increasing), and the .overview-file which contains the "Subject", "From", "Date", "Message-ID", "References", "Bytes" and "Lines" headers for each article in the group. Excuse my poor English, but I hope I could make myself clear. happy weekend, Stefanie ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-21 22:09 ` Stefanie Teufel @ 1998-03-22 17:55 ` Steinar Bang 1998-03-22 18:37 ` Kai Grossjohann 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Steinar Bang @ 1998-03-22 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> Stefanie Teufel <s.teufel@ndh.net>: > On Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 07:59:57PM +0100, Steinar Bang wrote: >> >>>>> Stefanie Teufel <s.teufel@ndh.net>: >> >> > Nope. Perhaps I don't understanding you correctly, but my newsspool >> > resides on a normal Linux native partition and I am running leafnode 1.4. >> > as my local newsserver, because it's only a single user system. I read >> > about problems relating to leafnode, though I thought they just occured >> > with earlier versions? >> >> If you read a newsspool maintained with leafnode, using nnspool, how >> does leafnode know what to fetch, and what to continue to fetch? > Leafnode itself is the NNTP server. It talks to your news client, and > stores readership data. Fetch (which comes with leafnode) is the NNTP > news-gatherer. It looks at the readership data Leafnode stores, and > selects what groups to pull news from. [snip!] I know this. What I meant was: If you read the leafnode news spool using nnspool, rather than the nntp back end, how will "fetch" know what to fetch? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-21 22:09 ` Stefanie Teufel 1998-03-22 17:55 ` Steinar Bang @ 1998-03-22 18:37 ` Kai Grossjohann 1998-03-22 18:53 ` Stefanie Teufel 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Kai Grossjohann @ 1998-03-22 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Steinar Bang, ding >>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 07:59:57PM +0100, Steinar Bang wrote: Steinar> If you read a newsspool maintained with leafnode, using nnspool, how Steinar> does leafnode know what to fetch, and what to continue to fetch? >>>>> On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Stefanie Teufel said: Stefanie> Leafnode itself is the NNTP server. It talks to your news Stefanie> client, and stores readership data. Fetch (which comes Stefanie> with leafnode) is the NNTP news-gatherer. It looks at the Stefanie> readership data Leafnode stores, and selects what groups Stefanie> to pull news from. Yes, but if you read your news using nnspool, leafnode will never know about it! fetch does not fetch groups which haven't been read for a week (or so), and the only program that knows whether something has been read is leafnode, because it gets the GROUP and ARTICLE commands. And leafnode is the program that stores the data so fetch knows what to fetch. I try to defeat this mechanism by having a cron job which runs touch on those files in /var/spool/news/interesting.groups which are relevant for me. Maybe you're doing this too, Stefanie? Or are you reading your news using nntp rather than nnspool? kai -- Really cancel? [OK] [Cancel] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-22 18:37 ` Kai Grossjohann @ 1998-03-22 18:53 ` Stefanie Teufel 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Stefanie Teufel @ 1998-03-22 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Steinar Bang, ding On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 07:37:21PM +0100, Kai Grossjohann wrote: > I try to defeat this mechanism by having a cron job which runs touch > on those files in /var/spool/news/interesting.groups which are > relevant for me. Maybe you're doing this too, Stefanie? Yep, but I do it in a much more unelegant matter. I have a "touch /var/spool/news/interesting.groups/*" in my rc.local... Stefanie ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Gnus 5.5 not displaying new articles in group 1998-03-20 18:10 ` Stefanie Teufel 1998-03-21 18:59 ` Steinar Bang @ 1998-03-23 13:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-03-23 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw) Stefanie Teufel <s.teufel@ndh.net> writes: > > experiencing the Emacs `directory-files' bug. It also means that > > nnspool doesn't find the .overview files for the group. > > No, I never encounter any problems with my .overview files or to put it > so I was never aware of any. Does the file returned by (nnheader-group-pathname nnspool-current-group nnspool-nov-directory ".overview") when you are in a group exist? And why not? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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