From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/18753 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Edward J. Sabol" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: MIME composition (was: Storing the group a message has been written to) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:45:09 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <199811161945.OAA24469@alderaan.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157225 7949 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:40:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18338 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:47:42 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAB25772; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:46:42 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:45:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23778 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:45:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from alderaan.gsfc.nasa.gov (alderaan.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.16.213]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18264 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:45:24 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by alderaan.gsfc.nasa.gov (950413.SGI.8.6.12/951211.SGI.AUTO) id OAA24469; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:45:09 -0500 Original-To: Gnus Mailing List In-reply-to: (message from Per Abrahamsen on 16 Nov 1998 16:11:11 +0100) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:18753 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:18753 Excerpts from mail: (16-Nov-98) Re: MIME composition (was: Storing the group a message has been written to) by Per Abrahamsen > I think we need a fascist widget based MIME compose method. It may > not auto-save properly unless we do something smart with > `format-alist'. But it should be easier for a novice user that the > `markup language' based approach. > > Maybe the markup language can be used as the textual backend for a > widget based MIME editor. I agree totally. This MML stuff might be a fine basis for doing MIME composition behind the scenes, but it should be completely invisble to the user. With all due respect to Lars, as a user interface goes, MML is shockingly bad, IMHO. I think I would rather see the raw MIME information instead, like mime-compose.el does. I honestly feel that some combination of text properties and/or invisible/intangible text with buttons/widgets as user-visible markers for non-editable MIME parts is the way to go.