From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/27866 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: wmperry@aventail.com (William M. Perry) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: What now? Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:09:12 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <199912071609.IAA05231@newman.aventail.com> References: <84bt8kpxba.fsf@snoopy.apana.org.au> <7s4se2uqao.fsf@brutus.mts.jhu.edu> <66yh2sev.fsf@apl.washington.edu> <199912070536.AAA01920@wmperry.bp.aventail.com> Reply-To: wmperry@aventail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035164813 26773 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:46:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04943 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:09:55 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAB19960; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:09:44 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 07 Dec 1999 10:09:56 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20079 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:09:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from newman.aventail.com (newman.aventail.com [216.207.80.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04934 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:09:13 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from leo.in.aventail.com (leo.in.aventail.com [192.168.1.136]) by newman.aventail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05231; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:09:12 -0800 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain.aventail.com (LOCALHOST [192.168.100.75]) by leo.in.aventail.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id YG2W1KMS; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:11:39 -0800 Original-To: Brian May X-Face: O~Rn;(l][/-o1sALg4A@xpE:9-"'IR[%;,,!m7 writes: > >>>>> "William" == William M Perry writes: > > William> Well, Emacs/W3 already uses gnus for that, so that should > William> be pretty simple to do. :) > > When I tried it, W3 seemed to use its on interface for the job, and > didn't use Gnus. For instance, w3 requires the NNTP server to be > configured separately from Gnus. This is changed with the new version of URL - I am in the midst of rewriting url-news.el right now. > I seem to remember another difference: when clicking on a news link from > Gnus, Gnus will look up all back ends for the message, but when clicking > on it from w3, w3 will only check with the nntp server. Well, news and nntp URLs are theoretically just for NNTP access. Gnus is not exactly envisioned by the guys who wrote the URL for news. :) I couldn't find any sort of 'get this messageid regardless of backend'. If there is one, could someone send it to me? > (side note: I have seen a number of embedded URLs in news documents of > the form "news:messageid...". Note the trailing periods. This breaks > Gnus, as it doesn't remove them before trying to fetch the article :-( eg > that previous article would be written as: > news:t4in1ruvyij.fsf_-_@silas-2.cc.monash.edu.au... ) THen they have been embedded in the document wrong. This is what the ... syntax is for. :) -bp