From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77712 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: plain old draft saving Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:52:56 +0100 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: <19bp1clccn.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> References: <87y64hkxxp.fsf@jidanni.org> <87k4g07n8o.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300197287 29355 80.91.229.12 (15 Mar 2011 13:54:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26036@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Mar 15 14:54:42 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PzUhs-0006Zd-KF for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:54:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PzUhq-0003Jl-4R; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:54:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PzUho-0003JS-NY for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:54:36 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PzUhn-0007Ct-3c for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:54:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [85.183.18.158] (helo=dev) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PzUhm-0006YF-0x for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:54:34 +0100 Original-Received: from shamrock by dev with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PzUh0-0001wp-Sf; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:53:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87k4g07n8o.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 15 Mar 2011 04:21:27 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-1765--4568h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-1688--4370h-0s--0d--H*u:Gnus, 0.000-1628--4214h-0s--0d--H*u:linux, 0.000-1628--4214h-0s--0d--H*UA:linux, 0.000-1569--4061h-0s--0d--H*u:gnu Spam tokens: 0.940-2175--1166h-38942s--0d--H*r:quimby.gnus.org, 0.865-5590--32987h-449668s--0d--H*r:helo Autolearn status: no 0.0 FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1 FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is freemail (rileyrg[at]googlemail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED 0.4 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL [85.183.18.158 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS 0.0 HELO_NO_DOMAIN Relay reports its domain incorrectly 0.9 NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED ADSP custom_med hit, and not from a mailing list List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77712 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:52:02 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: > > j> message-dont-send is an interactive compiled Lisp function in > j> `message.el'. > > j> (message-dont-send) > > j> Don't send the message you have been editing. > j> Instead, just auto-save the buffer and then bury it. > > j> OK, but mention there what it you just want to save it but not bury it. > j> Would a old fashioned > j> C-x C-s runs the command save-buffer > j> be OK, or does one need a fancy gnus-* command. > > An unsent message does not need to be saved explicitly. > > Ted Things can confuse in Gnus. What does "unsent" mean? Generally it means it "was not sent" ie posted to the destination. I started using the gnus-agent-queue in order to review all mails before sending using JS. The ones in the queue are, too, "unsent" IMO : you can edit them and save them and they are transferred back to the drafts which makes perfect sense. Regarding message-dont-send thats the equivalent of C-x C-s followed by C-x 0 ie "save in drafts and hide". So in answer to the OP: Yes, C-x C-s is the same as "save it but dont bury it".