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From: Vegard Vesterheim <vegard.vesterheim@uninett.no>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: elp-wrapper sneaking into .newsrc.eld
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:33:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1sr5dvp7nl.fsf@voll.uninett.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yb0fwubuwt5.fsf@dod.no> (Steinar Bang's message of "Mon, 06 Dec 2010 09:31:34 +0100")

On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 09:31:34 +0100 Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> wrote:

> In my opinion, the .newsrc.eld should be split up.
>
> Lars always asks "why?" when I suggest this.  The answers are: 
>  - It's a big file that's fragile wrt. to small obscure changes (it's
>    better to lose tick marks in one group, than in all of them)
>  - I would like to have my manually edited stuff (group parameters, and
>    servers, and perhaps other stuff) out of .newsrc.eld and into a file,
>    or set of files, that can be version controlled and shared together
>    with the rest of the configuration files in my home directory
>
> (I think there are other reasons as well, but these are the ones that
> came to mind right now)

Another reason is to simplify the process of using separate Gnusae
(across several computers/user accounts) for IMAP. Other IMAP clients
only needs the connection details for the IMAP server, and will fetch
the rest of the information from the server.

To bootstrap a new Gnus, you need to take several steps

 - configure your .authinfo.gpg file for credentials
 - configure the TLS mechanism (starttls, gnutls ...)
 - configure select methods in .gnus 
 - copy your ~/.newrc.eld
 - copy some directories (~/News etc)

I would love to see a simpler mechanism for getting Gnus running on a
new user account. There has been some ideas floating around about
storing some info on the IMAP server (using IMAP as a file storage with
tramp), but I am not sure how well this works in practise. Can anyone
share any details about how to do this?

Yes, I know that Gnus is not just an IMAP-server. It is for me.

Yes, I know there is a potential chicken-and-egg problem here about
bootstrapping Gnus using information from IMAP.

 - Vegard V -



  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-06  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-05 21:44 Dan Christensen
2010-12-05 21:52 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-05 22:00   ` Dan Christensen
2010-12-05 22:38     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-05 23:28       ` Dan Christensen
2010-12-06  8:31         ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-06  9:33           ` Vegard Vesterheim [this message]
2010-12-06 13:29             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-06 20:56             ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-15 16:34               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 19:41                 ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-15 20:59                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-06 13:31           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-06 21:01             ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-15 16:36             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 19:11               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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