From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/30863 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Trying to document some of gnus' darkish corners -- please help. Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 17:58:37 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <200005121558.RAA12395@marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> References: <87vh0kpv22.fsf@raven.localnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035167340 10714 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:29:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C6AD051F for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAB01844; Fri, 12 May 2000 10:59:39 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 12 May 2000 10:59:09 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10980 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 10:58:59 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A69D051F for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.159]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id RAA15874; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:58:38 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.20.160]) by marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de id RAA12395; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:58:37 +0200 (MET DST) Original-To: Rob Browning In-Reply-To: Rob Browning's message of "11 May 2000 17:43:17 -0500" User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/21.0.90 Original-Lines: 39 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30863 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30863 Rob Browning writes: > 1) Is gnus supposed to preserve article marks across backend > respools (B r)? If not, why not, and also if not, then might it > make sense to add a separate command that *will* preserve the > marks? (I just lost about 1400 marks because I forgot that gnus > would clobber them in this situation -- kinda painful). I don't know, but it is reasonable not to expect Gnus to do so, since `spooling' is what happens when Gnus retrieves messages from /var/mail or the POP server (or wherever). And obviously, messages don't have any marks there. Maybe you really wanted to move the messages? That preserves marks. There is a variable gnus-move-split-methods which is similar to nnmail-split-methods but suggests default groups to move to when doing `B m'. > 2) When you mark a crossposted article, what's supposed to happen to > the other copies? Yes, this is a painful situation. When you read a crossposted article, the other instances are marked as read. Apparently, marking an article as expirable counts as `reading' it. A couple of years ago (I think) we discussed whether it would be useful to make the marking behavior of Gnus more orthogonal and predictable. The idea was that there should be commands to apply a mark to the current instance only, and other commands to apply a mark to all instances, and maybe commands that do what they do now. I think that especially the `apply this mark to all copies' commands could be really useful. As it is, I don't use cross posts. kai -- Beware of flying birch trees.