From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/32729 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: \201 irritation! :-) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 00:17:06 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <200010032317.AAA32477@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> References: <00Aug28.151432edt.115218@gateway.intersys.com> <00Aug28.173634edt.115213@gateway.intersys.com> <200009051429.PAA09826@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200009082240.XAA16800@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <87n1h86w6a.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <200009181407.PAA02748@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <87wvg7roi1.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <200009211933.UAA08307@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <87og1f8imp.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <200009251155.MAA15586@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <87g0mkg0zo.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035168963 21409 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:56:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:56:03 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08D0D051E for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAC00923; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:17:33 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 03 Oct 2000 18:16:56 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23981 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:16:43 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from djlvig.dl.ac.uk (djlvig.dl.ac.uk [148.79.112.146]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E23D051E for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from fx@localhost) by djlvig.dl.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA32477; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 00:17:06 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: djlvig.dl.ac.uk: fx set sender to d.love@dl.ac.uk using -f X-Face: "_!nmR@11ZNuumt0oqG"Y3Hfy|;FGz)`"ul[G?ah6k-oNyDW?3/Nq3Qab$kUnUQ_d4};kPl R=}-Vqfo|S5mThi-kaBR=>%g5a3-OvnEhdHu{^APIaP:b}0m!$bDC>SX zz'r)e?`at?tpD*+~b+pf Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Florian Weimer's message of "28 Sep 2000 14:22:19 +0200" User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.0.90 Original-Lines: 34 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32729 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32729 >>>>> "FW" == Florian Weimer writes: >> Whatever you do, you need a buffer with encoded contents. Making it >> unibyte isn't right otherwise or you're dealing with the emacs-mule >> charset. FW> When qp encoding takes place, Gnus has already invoked FW> "encode-coding-region" at some point, so it should be safe to FW> look at the raw bytes. So you want unibyte. >> Of course you see the internal encoding if you switch it to unibyte >> mode anyway. You may also have pasted in raw bytes. FW> The problem is that raw bytes turn in to characters of the default FW> encoding (Latin-1 with my setup) when copying them around. Characters in unibyte text will only be converted if they're in the valid range. As far as I know, you could prevent any conversion if you really needed to. I don't know what the problem is that ShengHuo mentioned. FW> It would be very helpful if Emacs could optionally generate an FW> error message in this case, I don't think so. FW> so we could track those \201 stuff down more easily. It's unclear to me that inserting unibyte text per se is the root of the spurious coding conversions.