From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33003 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: ognus Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:39:49 GMT Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <200010291739.RAA06135@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> References: <2nwvetu80i.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169188 22846 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:59:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA120D049A for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 12:40:36 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAB22657; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:40:25 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:39:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02809 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:39:30 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from djlvig.dl.ac.uk (djlvig.dl.ac.uk [148.79.112.146]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F6ED049A for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 12:39:50 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from fx@localhost) by djlvig.dl.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) id RAA06135; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:39:49 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: djlvig.dl.ac.uk: fx set sender to d.love@dl.ac.uk using -f X-Face: "_!nmR@11ZNuumt0oqG"Y3Hfy|;FGz)`"ul[G?ah6k-oNyDW?3/Nq3Qab$kUnUQ_d4};kPl R=}-Vqfo|S5mThi-kaBR=>%g5a3-OvnEhdHu{^APIaP:b}0m!$bDC>SX zz'r)e?`at?tpD*+~b+pf Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <2nwvetu80i.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.0.90 Original-Lines: 31 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33003 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33003 >>>>> "ZSH" == ShengHuo ZHU writes: ZSH> I tagged it (pre-ognus-point instead), moved those files, ZSH> truncated ChangeLog, set revision to 6.0, added the wish list ZSH> (todo file). This means beyond the point the codes are ZSH> UNSTABLE. This is unfortunate. Now people (like me) used to doing updates against the CVS head or, I guess, picking up snapshots, get something unstable that they're not expecting and they can't pick up bug fixes to Gnus 5.8. It also screws me merging stuff for Emacs 21. Gnus 5.8 should have been stabilized and a proper release made before this. (I know that probably requires Lars to start doing maintenance again unless someone else gets control at the distribution machine or we can arrange to move things and advertise the fact.) Development hacking could have happened on a branch. Changing RCS version numbers in the repository is just the wrong thing to do. ZSH> I didn't fork a branch because there is a stable branch ZSH> emacs21-branch (though some XEmacs files are not in it.) That is not a stable branch. It's for my convenience importing into Emacs, and the code may not even work, particularly outside Emacs 21. It should not have XEmacs-specific files on it, or anything for which we don't have assignments. Apart from the fact that it needs more merging, which I'll have to abandon for the moment, it's already somewhat forked and will get worse soon unless we get assignments for stuff installed without them.