From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33165 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: emacs21-branch (Re: ognus) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:14:54 GMT Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <200011031914.TAA14435@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> References: <2nwvetu80i.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> <20001028192205.7987BDBA78@tux.gnu.franken.de> <20001029184843.3207BDBAC8@tux.gnu.franken.de> <200010302253.WAA08203@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200011021725.RAA12721@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169321 23657 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:02:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AECD049A for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:15:51 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAB20914; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:15:24 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 03 Nov 2000 13:14:47 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20993 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:14:34 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from djlvig.dl.ac.uk (djlvig.dl.ac.uk [148.79.112.146]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451F4D049A for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:14:55 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from fx@localhost) by djlvig.dl.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) id TAA14435; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:14:54 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: djlvig.dl.ac.uk: fx set sender to d.love@dl.ac.uk using -f X-Face: "_!nmR@11ZNuumt0oqG"Y3Hfy|;FGz)`"ul[G?ah6k-oNyDW?3/Nq3Qab$kUnUQ_d4};kPl R=}-Vqfo|S5mThi-kaBR=>%g5a3-OvnEhdHu{^APIaP:b}0m!$bDC>SX zz'r)e?`at?tpD*+~b+pf Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.0.90 Original-Lines: 30 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33165 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33165 >>>>> "DD" == Denys Duchier writes: DD> Why does the general public have no information and no access to DD> the current developments? Why should I have to be an DD> `accredited' contributor in order to have access to this DD> information? I'm not aware of an accreditation scheme. Why should maintainers expend the effort to do that if it's better devoted to improving the software? If you are volunteering to provide that effort, and can you show competence to do it, great, contact the maintainer and perhaps you can change things. (If you're competent, you know what's involved and may think twice.) I don't think the general public has any particular right to demand that I, say, do this. GNU is about cooperation and volunteers make things happen. DD> When I read the user manual for a piece of software, I usually DD> look for urls that would let me know where it is currently DD> maintained and developed. I think the Gnus user manual should of DD> course contain this information. Yes. If it doesn't you might contribute a fix. It _is_ listed in the released Emacs along with a bunch of other URLs which I've failed to keep secret. URLs are also scattered in Lisp library files' commentary and a number have been added to defgroups, particularly in the development sources. They are often already out-of-date in the released version, of course.