From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33195 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: asf@acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: emacs21-branch (Re: ognus) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 23:59:47 +0100 (CET) Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <20001104225947.D8177308ED@dahaIM.dyndns.org> References: <2nwvetu80i.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> <20001028192205.7987BDBA78@tux.gnu.franken.de> <20001029184843.3207BDBAC8@tux.gnu.franken.de> <200010302253.WAA08203@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200011021725.RAA12721@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200011031914.TAA14435@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169345 23795 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:02:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19E4D049A for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:00:22 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAB00986; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:00:15 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 04 Nov 2000 16:59:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01151 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 16:59:29 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from dahaIM.dyndns.org (csvr3210.noe-online.at [194.106.234.210]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49386D049A for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:59:54 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by dahaIM.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8177308ED; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 23:59:47 +0100 (CET) Mail-Copies-To: never Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: asf Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33195 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33195 Today, Denys Duchier wrote: >> Actually, quite a lot of effort is required to make the development >> process "feel" open/transparent to outsiders. > Since my suggestion was essentially to give the general public > anonymous CVS access, I can guarantee you that this is a no-brainer > that requires 5mn to set up. Anything additional would be gravy and > of course welcome, but not essential and can, if desired, be put in > place later. You might even get volunteers to do it :-) That is not completely correct. With the open cvs archive come new (and not quite new)-user questions who could check out the software but do not understand enough of it to make it work. Thus, expect a flood of "emacs21 don't work" postings in the gnu.emacs.*. Nevertheless, the gain is worth the effort. New developers are a _good_ thing in open software projects, and users can be educated. regards, -- Andreas Fuchs, , , antifuchs