Re: Quimby Upgrade

["Robin S. Socha" <rsocha@kens.com>]

* Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> [010405 09:35]:
> "Robin S. Socha" <robin@socha.net> writes:

> > Indeed. Have you considered running quimby on W2k or OsX?
> I say!  No need for that kind of language, young man!

Uuuups. Sorry.

> > Ummmm... Could it be that you're running a rather old version of OpenBSD?
> 
> 2.5 was the current one when I installed Quimby.

Yup. And now you go ahead and do the equivalent of 
cd /usr/src && cvs up && make build
with Debian.

> > There shouldn't be much more than the base system on it, so quite
> > whining. Now. Damn version junkies... Hehehe...
> 
> Well, Emacs.  You need new Emacs.  Emacs is good.  Newer Emacses is
> gooder. 

You got a severe pronunciation problem. The X in XEmacs is *not* silent.

> I couldn't.  I see I have to tell my tale of woe of FreeBSD, but it's
> shorter.  And more recent -- I installed my first and only FreeBSD
> last month.
> 
> FreeBSD has the best install I've ever seen.  I just chose the
> "paranoid safety minimal version with no X or nuttin'", or whatever
> it's called, and it installed itself without me having to do anything
> but hit RET a couple of times.  That's impressive.
> 
> Then I installed ports (from the same CD), and did the obligatory "cd
> /usr/ports/editors/emacs; make".  And it broke.  It didn't compile.
> (Something 

I see. I think you'll just love Linux. But get SuSE, it requires less
reading:

(robin@socha.net):(/usr/ports/editors/emacs)$ grep FLAVOR Makefile
FLAVORS=        no_x11
FLAVOR?=
.if ${FLAVOR:L} == "no_x11"

> Lars sad.

No. Lars dyslexic luser.

> So I thought I'd just install a pre-compiled Emacs, so I pkd_add-ed
> it.  It installed without a hitch, but when I tried to run it, it
> didn't work, since it didn't find the X libraries.

Logged in to ftp.openbsd.org.
Current remote directory is /pub/OpenBSD/2.8/packages/i386.
ncftp ...nBSD/2.8/packages/i386 > ls *emacs*x11*
emacs-20.7-no_x11.tgz

> Lars sadder.

No. Lars patheticcer luser. Lars deserve Corel Easy Linux.

> After staring at the error messages from ports, I found it that it
> failed when trying to compile libtool, so I installed a binary package
> of that, and then the ports Emacs compiled.  

Eh. You're supposed to be one of my lesser Gods, not such a total
lackwit. Did you *ever* read the docs? Or at least the Makefile?

> I was no longer sad, but I was also distinctly unimpressed.

Now, just imagine how your poor BSD must feel. *sniff*

> > If anything (and if it were remotely good enough for that), it should be
> > news.gnus.org. If you want that, I'll set it up (not using phpNuke but
> > http://www.daCode.org/ (thanks Fabien). Thing is that some things on
> > gnus.org are a little counter-intuitive. First thing /I/'d would be to
> > introduce a search engine that
> >     - searches gnus.org
> >     - offers searches for the ML archive (ht/dig is nicer than wilma, just
> >       for the record...)
> >     - offers searches for the "other resources"
> > That way, finding stuff would be easier. I'd also set up a separate
> > "Win/NT" corner, because that stuff isn't easy to grok, either. And
> > screenshots... If you guys want to upload your screenshots, there is a
> > "upload yor screenshot" link on socha.net ;-)
> 
> Sounds like a plan.  :-)

Errrr... yes. And now what? };->