From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35650 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robin S. Socha" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Quimby Upgrade Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:10:30 -0400 Message-ID: <20010405111030.D51587@kens.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171360 4240 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:36:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 20339 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 2001 15:10:30 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 20334 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2001 15:10:30 -0000 Original-Received: from kens.com (HELO test.kens.com) (qmailr@129.250.30.40) by gnus.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 2001 15:10:30 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 60981 invoked by uid 1002); 5 Apr 2001 15:10:31 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from larsi@gnus.org on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:29:27PM +0200 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-URL: https://socha.net/ X-Editor: Vim-600 http://www.vim.org/ Original-Lines: 90 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35650 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35650 * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [010405 09:35]: > "Robin S. Socha" writes: > > Indeed. Have you considered running quimby on W2k or OsX? > I say! No need for that kind of language, young man! Uuuups. Sorry. > > Ummmm... Could it be that you're running a rather old version of OpenBSD? > > 2.5 was the current one when I installed Quimby. Yup. And now you go ahead and do the equivalent of cd /usr/src && cvs up && make build with Debian. > > There shouldn't be much more than the base system on it, so quite > > whining. Now. Damn version junkies... Hehehe... > > Well, Emacs. You need new Emacs. Emacs is good. Newer Emacses is > gooder. You got a severe pronunciation problem. The X in XEmacs is *not* silent. > I couldn't. I see I have to tell my tale of woe of FreeBSD, but it's > shorter. And more recent -- I installed my first and only FreeBSD > last month. > > FreeBSD has the best install I've ever seen. I just chose the > "paranoid safety minimal version with no X or nuttin'", or whatever > it's called, and it installed itself without me having to do anything > but hit RET a couple of times. That's impressive. > > Then I installed ports (from the same CD), and did the obligatory "cd > /usr/ports/editors/emacs; make". And it broke. It didn't compile. > (Something I see. I think you'll just love Linux. But get SuSE, it requires less reading: (robin@socha.net):(/usr/ports/editors/emacs)$ grep FLAVOR Makefile FLAVORS= no_x11 FLAVOR?= .if ${FLAVOR:L} == "no_x11" > Lars sad. No. Lars dyslexic luser. > So I thought I'd just install a pre-compiled Emacs, so I pkd_add-ed > it. It installed without a hitch, but when I tried to run it, it > didn't work, since it didn't find the X libraries. Logged in to ftp.openbsd.org. Current remote directory is /pub/OpenBSD/2.8/packages/i386. ncftp ...nBSD/2.8/packages/i386 > ls *emacs*x11* emacs-20.7-no_x11.tgz > Lars sadder. No. Lars patheticcer luser. Lars deserve Corel Easy Linux. > After staring at the error messages from ports, I found it that it > failed when trying to compile libtool, so I installed a binary package > of that, and then the ports Emacs compiled. Eh. You're supposed to be one of my lesser Gods, not such a total lackwit. Did you *ever* read the docs? Or at least the Makefile? > I was no longer sad, but I was also distinctly unimpressed. Now, just imagine how your poor BSD must feel. *sniff* > > If anything (and if it were remotely good enough for that), it should be > > news.gnus.org. If you want that, I'll set it up (not using phpNuke but > > http://www.daCode.org/ (thanks Fabien). Thing is that some things on > > gnus.org are a little counter-intuitive. First thing /I/'d would be to > > introduce a search engine that > > - searches gnus.org > > - offers searches for the ML archive (ht/dig is nicer than wilma, just > > for the record...) > > - offers searches for the "other resources" > > That way, finding stuff would be easier. I'd also set up a separate > > "Win/NT" corner, because that stuff isn't easy to grok, either. And > > screenshots... If you guys want to upload your screenshots, there is a > > "upload yor screenshot" link on socha.net ;-) > > Sounds like a plan. :-) Errrr... yes. And now what? };->