From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43858 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Marant?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Maildir backend Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:51:28 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <20020313115128.A9018@fr.thalesgroup.com> References: <20020306103130.A4152@fr.thalesgroup.com> <20020307095642.A6244@fr.thalesgroup.com> <20020308131140.A10053@fr.thalesgroup.com> <20020312104127.A22635@fr.thalesgroup.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1016016974 20304 80.91.224.249 (13 Mar 2002 10:56:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:56:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16l6QX-0005HN-00 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:56:14 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16l6NN-0007ci-00; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:52:57 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:53:02 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA10736 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:52:49 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 1151 invoked by alias); 13 Mar 2002 10:52:35 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 1146 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2002 10:52:35 -0000 Original-Received: from gwsmtp.thomson-csf.com (195.101.39.226) by gnus.org with SMTP; 13 Mar 2002 10:52:35 -0000 Original-Received: from thomplex.thomson-csf.com (200.3.2.2) by gwsmtp.thomson-csf.com (NPlex 5.1.053) id 3C8C4FE90006997F for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:53:35 +0100 Original-Received: from thomplex.thomson-csf.com (200.3.2.2) by thomplex.thomson-csf.com (NPlex 5.1.036) id 3C8EF26100012B92 for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:44:03 +0100 Original-Received: from bgxplex3.bgx.airsys.thomson-csf.com (1.38.9.153) by bgxplex.bgx.airsys.thomson-csf.com (NPlex 5.1.053) id 3C8F2366000006A6 for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:52:06 +0100 Original-Received: from lully.bgx.airsys.thomson-csf.com (187.150.3.12) by bgxplex3.bgx.airsys.thomson-csf.com (NPlex 5.1.053) id 3C7636F70001E639 for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:01:57 +0100 Original-Received: from af_mara by lully.bgx.airsys.thomson-csf.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 16l6Lw-0002Lj-00 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:51:28 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from prj@po.cwru.edu on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:30:21AM -0500 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43858 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43858 On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:30:21AM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: > J=E9r=F4me Marant wrote: > > They should not be mandatory and they take too much room > > on my system. >=20 > I don't know how you're measuring the total size, but there's a good > chance the measurement you have is inaccurately high. The files used > to store marks are actually hard links to a single file, so each > additional mark file doesn't take up any more space except for storing > its name in the directory. No additional inodes are used. Yes, I was probably wrong. I'm trying to understand why it is slow on startup. Could you please explain how nnmaildir works, mainly the content of .nnmaildir/marks? There is also a markfile file that seems to be always empty. What is it for? =20 > The NOV information does take up extra inodes and space, possibly .. > files wouldn't be created. That change shouldn't be too hard. NOV can be disable if nov-is-evil is non nil right?=20 > > Would you mind explaining what in nnmaildir has to be modified in > > order to have, for instance, a filename based maildir backend ? >=20 > Storing marks in the filenames, you mean? -request-set-mark and > -request-update-info would have to be changed, at least. I'm not sure > about anything else. Well, I'll forget about that. Thanks. Cheers, --=20 J=E9r=F4me Marant