From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53358 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Andree Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: broken: #secure method=pgp mode=signencrypt Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:29:48 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <20030709102948.GE3850@merlin.emma.line.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1057764768 2775 80.91.224.249 (9 Jul 2003 15:32:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1902@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jul 09 17:32:44 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19aGtm-0000TP-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:30:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19aGsZ-0004MJ-00; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:29:11 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19aCCv-0003q3-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 05:29:53 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 99192 invoked by alias); 9 Jul 2003 10:29:52 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 99187 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 10:29:52 -0000 Original-Received: from pd9e1e9af.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO m2a2.dyndns.org) (postfix@217.225.233.175) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 10:29:52 -0000 Original-Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 667B88EC7F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:29:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53358 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53358 On Wed, 09 Jul 2003, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > Does Gnus run gnupg twice or something? Once to clearsign, then to > > encrypt? > > Yup. See the Message manual on Security. You want: > > (setq mml-signencrypt-style-alist '(("smime" combined) > ("pgp" combined) > ("pgpmime" combined))) > > I think Gnus should default to this, or even better, figure out when > it doesn't work and revert back to the combined mode. This convolution is an astonishment, and as such, violates the POLA. :-> What I particularly take offense at is this allegation: Will cause Gnus to sign and encrypt in one pass, thus generating a single signed and encrypted part. Note that combined sign and encrypt does not work with all supported OpenPGP implementations (in particular, PGP version 2 do not support this). I have just verified this with mutt and pgp-2.6.3i, and pgp on the command line, it just works. It has always worked as long as I can remember. (Plus, PGP-2 certainly doesn't claim OpenPGP conformance, it's too old to.) The other issue (might be a feature request or yet another question for help with the configuration) is that Gnus doesn't show me the boundaries of the encrypted part of such a mail unless I press W s, and if I do, it still doesn't tell me the part was signed, I only get to know it was encrypted. Strange? -- Matthias Andree