From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57203 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: mx.gnus.org being very strict Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 15:25:43 -0400 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <20040503192543.GB21891@fencepost> References: <87ad0p4p57.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083612394 4612 80.91.224.253 (3 May 2004 19:26:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 19:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Miles Bader , ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5743@lists.math.uh.edu Mon May 03 21:26:24 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BKj55-0006LC-00 for ; Mon, 03 May 2004 21:26:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BKj4f-0000Va-00; Mon, 03 May 2004 14:25:57 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BKj4X-0000VS-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 May 2004 14:25:49 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BKj4V-0000AI-Lz for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 May 2004 14:25:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [199.232.76.164]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088963A0207 for ; Mon, 3 May 2004 14:25:45 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1BKj4R-0007SF-Pj; Mon, 03 May 2004 15:25:43 -0400 Original-To: Matthias Andree Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57203 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57203 On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 08:13:32PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > > Anyway, you know the old rule: be conservative in what you produce, > > and liberal in what you accept. So yeah, it'd be nice if everyone > > would use lots of headers, but rejecting mail outright because there > > are no mime-headers on 8-bit mail is a bit overly strict. > > Well, if they are going to emit ("produce" doesn't seem right) the stuff > they have accepted verbatim, accepting junk means producing junk, > breaking the "conservative in what you produce" part. Gateways, Relays > always face this problem. Accept liberally and emit garbage, or accept > only conforming mail and emit conservatively formatted data. If you are a gateway, you should probably just be as transparent as you can... It's the endpoints that know what's going on; when gateways try to interpret things, they as often as not just muck things up. There are cases where you can't be transparent, and have to interpret, of course, as when you're converting from one form to another. -Miles -- /\ /\ (^.^) (")") *This is the cute kitty virus, please copy this into your sig so it can spread.