* gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview error (was: gnus tries to run w3m) [not found] <200601230644.k0N6iQ5A021127@scanner2.ics.uci.edu> @ 2006-01-23 11:55 ` Reiner Steib 2006-01-23 13:02 ` Dan Nicolaescu 2006-01-23 11:56 ` gnus tries to run w3m Reiner Steib 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Dan Nicolaescu, ding Kevin, could you please look into this? On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote on bugs@gnus.org: [ Switching back from January 2006 version to November 2005 version ] > Trying to use gnus in the November version of emacs an error about > gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview is produced... > > Does anyone have any idea what is going on? I've seen a couple of similar reports recently: - <news:1137750787.388337.4270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=1137750787.388337.4270%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com - <news:op.s17fl6nfo2upmc@loopback> http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=op.s17fl6nfo2upmc%40loopback (here's a translation of the German text:) ,---- | My Gnus - User-AgentGnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin) - | aborts with the message above. I didn't change anything in this Emacs | [configuration]. | | In the error message it is written what to do, but I don't understand | it (how to do it). `---- Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview error (was: gnus tries to run w3m) 2006-01-23 11:55 ` gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview error (was: gnus tries to run w3m) Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 13:02 ` Dan Nicolaescu 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2006-01-23 13:02 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes: > Kevin, could you please look into this? > > On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote on bugs@gnus.org: > > [ Switching back from January 2006 version to November 2005 version ] > > Trying to use gnus in the November version of emacs an error about > > gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview is produced... > > > > Does anyone have any idea what is going on? > More details about the above, the error message seems to be this: gnus-agent-read-agentview no longer supports version %d. Stop gnus,\ manually evaluate gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview, then restart gnus. But how to "manually evaluate gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview" is not obvious, that function takes one (undocumented) parameter and the user cannot guess what that parameter might be. Another thing is that gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview is not autoloaded, or loaded by default so for some users would be difficult to even find the function... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus tries to run w3m [not found] <200601230644.k0N6iQ5A021127@scanner2.ics.uci.edu> 2006-01-23 11:55 ` gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview error (was: gnus tries to run w3m) Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 11:56 ` Reiner Steib 2006-01-23 12:21 ` Katsumi Yamaoka 2006-01-23 12:56 ` Dan Nicolaescu 1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 11:56 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: bugs, ding On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > Gnus v5.11 > GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8, X toolkit) > > When using gnus with the current Emacs CVS it tries to run w3m when > visiting some messages. > > The w3m version that I have in my patch is old (0.3) so it does not > like the flags passed, so the w3m help message is displayed in the > article buffer instead of the article content. > This did not happen with an emacs check out from CVS at the end of > November. > I didn't change any settings. Katsumi Yamaoka changed some w3m related stuff recently. Maybe he has an idea. [ Copying ding@gnus ] > Why would gnus try to use html at all? There's a text/plain > alternative, and I never enabled html in gnus... This is in the FAQ: ,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.6]") ] | Question 4.6 | | I'd like Gnus NOT to render HTML-mails but show me the text part if | it's available. How to do it? `---- Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus tries to run w3m 2006-01-23 11:56 ` gnus tries to run w3m Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 12:21 ` Katsumi Yamaoka 2006-01-23 12:56 ` Dan Nicolaescu 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2006-01-23 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding >>>>> In <v9acdn2m5g.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: >> Gnus v5.11 >> GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8, X toolkit) >> >> When using gnus with the current Emacs CVS it tries to run w3m when >> visiting some messages. >> >> The w3m version that I have in my patch is old (0.3) so it does not >> like the flags passed, so the w3m help message is displayed in the >> article buffer instead of the article content. >> This did not happen with an emacs check out from CVS at the end of >> November. >> I didn't change any settings. > Katsumi Yamaoka changed some w3m related stuff recently. Maybe he has > an idea. [ Copying ding@gnus ] I know that problem, sorry. I'll make an effort to make it work with old w3m. At any rate, the change I made is required to display non-ASCII text including Latin-1. BTW, you can customize the `mm-text-html-renderer' variable to the value other than `w3m-standalone'. ,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.7]") ] | Question 4.7 | | Can I use some other browser than w3 to render my HTML-mails? `---- >> Why would gnus try to use html at all? There's a text/plain >> alternative, and I never enabled html in gnus... > This is in the FAQ: > ,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.6]") ] >| Question 4.6 >| >| I'd like Gnus NOT to render HTML-mails but show me the text part if >| it's available. How to do it? > `---- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus tries to run w3m 2006-01-23 11:56 ` gnus tries to run w3m Reiner Steib 2006-01-23 12:21 ` Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2006-01-23 12:56 ` Dan Nicolaescu 2006-01-23 15:08 ` Reiner Steib 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2006-01-23 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw) Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes: > On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > > Why would gnus try to use html at all? There's a text/plain > > alternative, and I never enabled html in gnus... > > This is in the FAQ: > > ,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.6]") ] > | Question 4.6 > | > | I'd like Gnus NOT to render HTML-mails but show me the text part if > | it's available. How to do it? > `---- The problem is that I use the default value for mm-discouraged-alternatives (wich is also the value indicated in the above FAQ entry), so Gnus should not try to render HTML... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus tries to run w3m 2006-01-23 12:56 ` Dan Nicolaescu @ 2006-01-23 15:08 ` Reiner Steib 2006-01-23 17:52 ` Dan Nicolaescu 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes: [...] > > ,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.6]") ] > > | Question 4.6 > > | > > | I'd like Gnus NOT to render HTML-mails but show me the text part if > > | it's available. How to do it? > > `---- > > The problem is that I use the default value for > mm-discouraged-alternatives (wich is also the value indicated in the > above FAQ entry), so Gnus should not try to render HTML... The default value is nil (see mm-decode.el), but the FAQ entry suggests to add "text/html" and "text/richtext". Maybe you misinterpreted the text ``[...] then the value of this variable should be set to: ("text/html" "text/richtext")'' in the doc string as the default value? Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus tries to run w3m 2006-01-23 15:08 ` Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 17:52 ` Dan Nicolaescu 2006-01-23 18:41 ` Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2006-01-23 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw) Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: > On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > > > Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes: > [...] > > > ,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.6]") ] > > > | Question 4.6 > > > | > > > | I'd like Gnus NOT to render HTML-mails but show me the text part if > > > | it's available. How to do it? > > > `---- > > > > The problem is that I use the default value for > > mm-discouraged-alternatives (wich is also the value indicated in the > > above FAQ entry), so Gnus should not try to render HTML... > > The default value is nil (see mm-decode.el), but the FAQ entry > suggests to add "text/html" and "text/richtext". > > Maybe you misinterpreted the text ``[...] then the value of this > variable should be set to: ("text/html" "text/richtext")'' in the doc > string as the default value? Yep, you are right. I shouldn't have been looking at that so late at night, sorry... Is this something new(ish)? I had the impression that by default Gnus would display by default the text/plain alternative iff a message contained text/plain and text/html alternatives. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus tries to run w3m 2006-01-23 17:52 ` Dan Nicolaescu @ 2006-01-23 18:41 ` Reiner Steib 2006-01-23 21:01 ` Dan Nicolaescu 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > Is this something new(ish)? I had the impression that by default Gnus > would display by default the text/plain alternative iff a message > contained text/plain and text/html alternatives. No, there were only documentation additions in 2005. From vc-annotate (sorry for the long lines): 5.65 (larsi 04-Dec-99): (defcustom mm-discouraged-alternatives nil 5.46 (larsi 04-Jul-99): "List of MIME types that are discouraged when viewing multipart/alternative. 5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99): Viewing agents are supposed to view the last possible part of a message, 5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99): as that is supposed to be the richest. However, users may prefer other 5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99): types instead, and this list says what types are most unwanted. If, 5.77 (fx 27-Apr-00): for instance, text/html parts are very unwanted, and text/richtext are 5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99): somewhat unwanted, then the value of this variable should be set 5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99): to: 5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99): 7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): (\"text/html\" \"text/richtext\") 7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): 7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): Adding \"image/.*\" might also be useful. Spammers use it as the 7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): prefered part of multipart/alternative messages. See also 7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): `gnus-buttonized-mime-types', to which adding \"multipart/alternative\" 7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): enables you to choose manually one of two types those mails include." 7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): :type '(repeat regexp) ;; See `mm-preferred-alternative-precedence'. 5.65 (larsi 04-Dec-99): :group 'mime-display) Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus tries to run w3m 2006-01-23 18:41 ` Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 21:01 ` Dan Nicolaescu 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2006-01-23 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw) Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: > On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > > > Is this something new(ish)? I had the impression that by default Gnus > > would display by default the text/plain alternative iff a message > > contained text/plain and text/html alternatives. > > No, there were only documentation additions in 2005. From vc-annotate > (sorry for the long lines): > > 5.65 (larsi 04-Dec-99): (defcustom mm-discouraged-alternatives nil [snip] Well, then something else is involved here. I just tried with Gnus from emacs-21.4 and for that version the text/plain alternative is shown, for emacs CVS the text/html version of the same message is shown. For both emacs versions mm-discouraged-alternatives was not changed from the default. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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