From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/63321 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giorgos Keramidas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: document frankly how a user is to just read his mail Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 02:15:36 +0300 Message-ID: <20060607231535.GA77296@gothmog.pc> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1149722274 16113 80.91.229.2 (7 Jun 2006 23:17:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bugs@gnus.org, ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m11848@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jun 08 01:17:46 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fo7HM-0006XP-SY for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 01:17:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Fo7HD-0007jK-00; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:17:27 -0500 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Fo7Do-0007jC-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:13:56 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fo7Dm-0004Qs-Nh for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:13:56 -0500 Original-Received: from igloo.linux.gr ([62.1.205.36]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Fo7Dl-0008DQ-00; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 01:13:53 +0200 Original-Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id k57NE8N2005879 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 02:14:11 +0300 Original-Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k57NFaUd077369; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 02:15:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Original-Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k57NFa7t077368; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 02:15:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Original-To: Dan Jacobson Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.037, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44, AWL 0.40) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:63321 Archived-At: On 2006-06-08 01:48, Dan Jacobson wrote: > The top of the gnus info tree should have an article: What if I > don't want to ever read 'news' and only want to read 'mail' and all > my mail currently is in /var/spool/mail/$USER? How should I then set > up gnus? > > You may think that "1.3 The Server is Down" is good enough, but I > say you have surely lost the user by then. > > Indeed > $ mutt > would be much faster than trying to read the gnus documentation. > > http://www.useit.com/alertbox/ rating for gnus surely is 0. > > And how would one translate > $ mutt -f file > into gnus language? Surely one need a post-doc degree to find out. > > Why don't you have a info page saying how to do > $ mail > $ mail -f file > $ mutt > $ mutt -f file > but in the gnus language or even from, gasp, > $ emacs -f gnus 'what goes here?' #the command line. > Or maybe it is impossible. > > And regarding your > "Address: " > prompt, after guessing your B command might be usable. Well who > could ever figure out how to tell it the name of a local file. The > user is just left poking in the dark as usual. I've recently been taught that the best way to open an mbox file quickly in Gnus is to use: C-u G f /path/to/mbox RET m This is surely a bit more complex than: mutt -f /path/to/mbox but you still have to set up mutt correctly before being able to do anything useful with that command.