From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65305 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giorgos Keramidas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Splitting gnus.texi Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:50:32 +0300 Message-ID: <20070930205032.GA11749@kobe.laptop> References: <87fy1v36be.fsf@neutrino.caeruleus.net> <87fy1ut4hp.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1191185488 4464 80.91.229.12 (30 Sep 2007 20:51:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:51:28 +0000 (UTC) To: Katsumi Yamaoka , rms@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 30 22:51:24 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ic5l6-0005Lq-4L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:51:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ic5l2-0007Nv-Dv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:51:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ic5ky-0007JW-NF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:51:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ic5kv-0007Cs-Uo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:51:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ic5kv-0007CQ-R0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:51:13 -0400 Original-Received: from igloo.linux.gr ([62.1.205.36]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ic5ks-00005m-41; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:51:10 -0400 Original-Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup51.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.51]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id l8UKoiuu026258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:50:54 +0300 Original-Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8UKocgl011777; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:50:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Original-Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8UKoX4c011776; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:50:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.913, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.49, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:80060 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65305 Archived-At: On 2007-09-26 08:07, Reiner Steib wrote: >On Wed, Sep 26 2007, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >>>>>>> Richard Stallman wrote: >> >>> It would be good to split gnus.texi into 10 to 15 files >>> just because it is so big. Similar for calc.texi. >> >> At least for gnus.texi, I don't see the benefit of splitting. >> It's indeed big, but is not too big to edit with Emacs. Rather, >> I cannot ignore a disadvantage of splitting it. I sometimes >> write in it. Since various Gnus functions are related mutually, >> I frequently check other items concerned when I write something. >> [...] But if gnus.texi is split into 10 to 15 files, it will be >> quite troublesome. >> >> I can agree with splitting if it is very useful to users, though. > > Additionally, splitting destroys CVS annovate (vc-annotoate). I also > see no problem with the size. This doesn't have to be the result of splitting. The files may be 'repo-copied' by one of the CVS admins, creating let's say 3 files: gnus.texi gnus-news.texi gnus-email.texi These files can then be 'trimmed' with a normal commit, and the trimmed text becomes a changeset of its own. This way 'cvs annotate' will still show useful information.