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From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>, ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: message-confirm-send
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:26:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071125032619.GE4493@kobe.laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k5oj5ae9.fsf@catnip.gol.com>

On 2007-11-16 08:58, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> wrote:
>Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:
>> By that criteria, confirmation on C-c C-c, since it happens every time
>> without any recognition of common cases and attaches to a frequent
>> operation, is useless in much the same way that the rm -i alias is
>> useless.
>
> Perhaps a more useful solution to the "realize your mistake as soon as
> you hit send" problem (and this at least, is real) would be undoable
> mail.  Undoability often seems like a better method than confirmation.
>
> Since you can't actually undo mail sending, a more practical solution
> then would be a default queuing period for outgoing mail and easy-to-use
> tools to examine the queue and cancel pending messages.
>
> I suppose it's all a bit too much effort (needs MTA cooperation etc) for
> the gain though.  [and would probably cause tons of complaints about
> your "slow" mail system...]

That's a very good suggestion, I think.

I am not worried too much about hitting `C-c C-c' too fast, because most
of the time I spent in Gnus is in agentized sessions.  This means that
all outgoing Usenet posts and mail messages are queued by default, and I
can expire them from the `queue' group to undo the posting operation.

It doesn't happen very often that I want to expire a posted message, but
there have been at least 3-4 times the last year.  This means that it is
far from a very common thing to do, but still not something useless or
completely unworthy of consideration.

Maybe an agentized session is something which the original poster may
consider as an `improved mode of using Gnus'?

- Giorgos




  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-25  3:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-14 18:58 message-confirm-send jidanni
2007-11-14 21:05 ` message-confirm-send Adam Sjøgren
2007-11-14 21:09   ` message-confirm-send Leo
2007-11-15 20:13     ` message-confirm-send jidanni
2007-11-15 20:29       ` message-confirm-send Bastien
2007-11-15 22:47         ` message-confirm-send jidanni
2007-11-15 22:55           ` message-confirm-send Karl Kleinpaste
2007-11-15 23:08           ` message-confirm-send Russ Allbery
2007-11-15 23:38             ` message-confirm-send jidanni
2007-11-15 23:58             ` message-confirm-send Miles Bader
2007-11-16  0:20               ` message-confirm-send Russ Allbery
2007-11-17  2:37                 ` message-confirm-send Miles Bader
2007-11-17 10:23                   ` message-confirm-send Bastien
2007-12-06 12:48                     ` message-confirm-send jidanni
2007-12-06 18:31                       ` message-confirm-send Reiner Steib
2007-12-12 17:50                         ` message-confirm-send jidanni
2007-11-25  3:26               ` Giorgos Keramidas [this message]
2007-12-18  5:24             ` shell-mode flakey [was Re: message-confirm-send] jidanni
     [not found]             ` <mailman.5147.1197955487.18990.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-12-18 16:19               ` shell-mode flakey Roland Winkler
2007-12-19  0:31                 ` Miles Bader
2007-12-19  2:22                 ` Russ Allbery
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.5185.1198024311.18990.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-12-19 16:25                   ` Sven Joachim
2007-11-17  9:23           ` message-confirm-send Reiner Steib
2007-11-25  3:20           ` message-confirm-send Giorgos Keramidas
2007-11-26 12:51             ` message-confirm-send jidanni
2007-11-21 16:31     ` message-confirm-send Ted Zlatanov
2007-11-14 21:18 ` message-confirm-send Bastien
2010-10-01 20:03 ` message-confirm-send Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-23  4:22   ` message-confirm-send jidanni
2010-10-23  9:17     ` message-confirm-send Alberto Luaces
2010-10-23 10:18       ` message-confirm-send Richard Riley
2010-10-23 13:55         ` message-confirm-send Bruno Tavernier
2010-10-24 14:46           ` message-confirm-send jidanni
2010-10-25 18:32             ` message-confirm-send Ted Zlatanov

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