From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66145 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: About follup headers on usenet Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:44:06 -0800 Message-ID: <200801161844.m0GIi6BE001507@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <87ir20439n.fsf@newsguy.com> <87bq7psqmk.fsf@newsguy.com> <200801160722.m0G7MfWs003628@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <86ejchzkno.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200509145 30488 80.91.229.12 (16 Jan 2008 18:45:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14636@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jan 16 19:46:03 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JFDGw-0001Ye-6K for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:45:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JFDGT-0000N0-FC; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:45:29 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JFDGR-0000Mb-W8 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:45:28 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JFDGM-0008Pr-1a for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:45:27 -0600 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JFDGN-00010T-00 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:45:23 +0100 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1201113847.05607@00hvpbfS7SuQ6xUXnmrILg Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m0GIi6BE001507; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:44:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86ejchzkno.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:32:11 -0600") Original-Lines: 31 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66145 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:22:40 -0800 Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > > DN> Reiner Steib writes: > >> On Sun, Jan 13 2008, reader@newsguy.com wrote: > >> > >> > Reiner Steib writes: > >> >> References? The References header is hidden by default in No Gnus > >> >> when composing a message. It is inserted when sending the message. > >> > > >> > Thanks... has it always been that way? I mean in last 2yrs or so? > >> > >> Since 2004 (but as said before, only in the development version): > > DN> And this has the bad property that even if you do > DN> (setq message-hidden-headers nil) > > DN> and then remove the "References" header, it will still get added to the > DN> message when the message is sent. > DN> Is this considered a good idea? > > I think it's OK, since 99% of users either want it or don't care. I'd > leave it on by default. > > The remaining 1% should have a clean way of removing that header I > guess. Is there one? I don't know of it. Probably the code that inserts the header, should not try to insert it if it was set to be visible, the header is in the buffer. If it is not, then the user intentionally deleted it.