From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78234 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Andree Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: making sendmail call to msmtp asynchronous? Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:36:08 +0200 Message-ID: <20110330093608.GA22794@apollo.emma.line.org> References: <87k4ft9es7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8739m5juqt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301478010 14531 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2011 09:40:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:40:10 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26544@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Mar 30 11:40:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4rsj-0003Pz-U4 for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:40:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4rrg-00010v-5P; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 04:39:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4rre-00010l-RB for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 04:38:58 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4rrd-0004XM-8k for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 04:38:58 -0500 Original-Received: from krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de ([129.217.163.1] helo=krusty.dt.e-technik.tu-dortmund.de) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4rrb-0001nt-Qp for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:38:55 +0200 Original-Received: from mandree.no-ip.org (g226226002.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.226.226.2]) by mail.dt.e-technik.tu-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8AA35477F8 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:38:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 51) id 87F979464A; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:42:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from apollo.emma.line.org (apollo.emma.line.org [192.168.0.4]) by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A679945D8 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:35:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B093B25AD9F; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:36:08 +0200 (CEST) Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78234 Archived-At: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:38:46AM +0200, Richard Riley wrote: > Not without pain. Of course. Exim4 is up there with the worst when it > comes to "simple tweaks" and enabling exim4 for multiple smarthosts > proved impossible (for me) give or take despite some old configs out > there in google land for exim1-3 but not 4. Why not use exim4s smtp send > facility? Its a pain if you travel : here I sit on holiday and smtp > ports for outgoing are blocked by the ISP and/or the hotel router. Gah! While I could offer you sample configs from my Cygwin installation, I've found out the hard way (this time on FreeBSD) that Exim4 has a very awkward lock-destination-sites behaviour that requires major manual interventions to purge the retry/site database to get mails unstuck, thus I decided I'm not going to install any more of that. While Postfix is a bit more of an effort to configure (enable sender-based authentication, enable sender-based relay, enable smtp (not smtpd)-side tls, enable smtp-side sasl, permit plaintext authentication on secure tls channels, set up all the maps, I find it's more transparent and has less magic special casing underneath that confuses the heck out of myself.