From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30870 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2021 17:38:53 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 21 Feb 2021 17:38:53 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsgz-003hAT-2t for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 11:38:49 -0600 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsgy-00E9K8-CO for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 11:38:48 -0600 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsgw-00E9K0-Cp for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 11:38:46 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsgt-003aD6-CS for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 11:38:45 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=8IPtG2R9+LSODWYvKcsUKDEdwDckPaRZUr2CMJBFDGs=; b=lij4vjFU9+/b1IfyBJMNVE8QPw zvf5DVfrUR0Pth67ArB3rW3nshx5+1THYm8QxW+oA9Yw0TWJqZBAtPpFm/2nWLXVgKCA2b2CdGeKA Ik6/wCKQw9n5ePZuIu/tfzMDJRyxHkpQWWkW8xGOYHK+BNYSM3UfqxJ9KSFeDsVRINYw=; Received: from mout-p-201.mailbox.org ([2001:67c:2050::465:201]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsgl-0002eF-0d for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:38:37 +0100 Received: from smtp2.mailbox.org (smtp2.mailbox.org [80.241.60.241]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-201.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DkCGK0Qt3zQlF7; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:38:33 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Received: from smtp2.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.241]) by spamfilter01.heinlein-hosting.de (spamfilter01.heinlein-hosting.de [80.241.56.115]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id 5GSmZOVC3C8B; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:38:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (orpheus.olymp [local]) by orpheus.olymp (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 8ec91999; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 17:38:28 +0000 (WET) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 17:38:28 +0000 From: Luis Henriques To: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: Annoying issue with group not showing new messages Message-ID: <20210221173828.GA86830@camandro.org> References: <20210219120624.GA27346@camandro.org> <87pn0wkyqk.fsf@dick> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87pn0wkyqk.fsf@dick> X-MBO-SPAM-Probability: X-Rspamd-Score: -4.13 / 15.00 / 15.00 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: EDBAA17BA X-Rspamd-UID: 241ac6 List-ID: Precedence: bulk On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 07:50:43AM -0500, dick.r.chiang@gmail.com wrote: > One cannot practically use gnus without stepping through functions. This is > why mu4e has effectively halted new gnus adoption. > > Send yourself a mail to a good inbox. `C-u C-M-x` on > `nnimap-request-group-scan`. Then `M-g` on the group, and SPC step to see how > it's supposed to look. > > Now do the same for the problematic inbox. Inspect variables and function > calls with `e variable-or-function-call RET`. > > `C-M-x` on `nnimap-request-group-scan` to turn off debugging. > > This general strategy holds you in good stead for your entire > emacs lifetime. Google around for more (onerously longwinded) info. Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately, I tried that... and gave up. I'm not (e)lisp literate so debugging such complex code isn't something I'm ready to do. And no, I'm not moving to mu4e :-) Cheers, -- Luis