From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40849 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Huehne Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE ! How to fetch mails from HOTMAIL.COM with GNUS/webmail & W3 ? Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:46:35 +0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <26E1EF1C-EF95-11D5-B5CD-000393016BDC@mac.com> References: <2nk7vscpm9.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v475) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176337 3053 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:58:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Huehne , ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 10702 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 06:49:01 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 06:49:01 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16EPeC-0002ci-00; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 00:47:12 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 13 Dec 2001 00:46:59 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA12009 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 00:46:41 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 10671 invoked by alias); 13 Dec 2001 06:46:43 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 10664 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 06:46:43 -0000 Original-Received: from smtpout.mac.com (204.179.120.88) by gnus.org with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 06:46:43 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (server-source-si02 [10.13.10.6]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id fBD6XA1v023551; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:33:10 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GO9S5T00.EY0; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:46:41 -0800 Original-Received: from localhost ([63.12.46.34]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GO9S5R00.B16; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:46:39 -0800 Original-To: bugs@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <2nk7vscpm9.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.475) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40849 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40849 Dear ShengHuo, This is a clear statement and I am the last person to blame you for Microsoft's preferences for properitary protocols. Would you mind to remove the hotmail part from webmail.el or put a hint into the source? May I suggest a slightly clearer comment like (message "Sorry, hotmail is currently not working and we see no bug fix yet 12/13/2001") ? This would have been for me more helpful than ((error hotmail HTML has changed or your w3 package is too old.(list@0))). Which let me hope and wait, since one option was to for a new W3. What I did ... without success. Now I am in good mood and will try the suggested alternatives. Many thanks for these hints !-) Cheers, Michael On Thursday, December 13, 2001, at 12:30 , ShengHuo ZHU wrote: > Michael Huehne writes: > >> Hello Gnus Team and Users, >> >> EXCUSES:---------------------- >> >> Please excuse me, when I am sending this mail to the wrong group. >> I am uncertain if webmail.el's Hotmail reading capabilities are broken, >> or I am to stupid to configure it correctly. > > It is broken, partially because webmail.el cannot login MS passport. > Currently, I have no idea how to get through it. > > [...] > >> In worse case: Any other way / tip (even tricky) to do one final mail >> merge between GNUS and HOTMAIL would be appreciated. How can point me >> to a possible solution ? > > A possible solution is to use Outlook Express to fetch mails from > Hotmail, then read those folders with nndoc, or convert the dbx format > to mbox format with ol2mbox or dbx2mbx. > > http://mbx2mbox.sourceforge.net/ > http://sourceforge.net/projects/ol2mbox > > OE uses an unknown protocol to talk with Hotmail. If someone can > decode that, that would be a better solution. > > ShengHuo