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Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> writes:

> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> 
> > No no no.  Consider people with a gnu.org address, or acm.org, or
> > hotmail.com.  People who use the default Linux installation will
> > probably be using an account with the user id 100 (or was it 1000?),
> > so the user id part that goes into the local part of the message id
> > doesn't help, either.
> 
> People who use default Linux installations (at least RedHat) and DHCP
> will also get a domain part of "localhost.localdomain".
> 
> # emacs -q -batch -eval '(princ (concat (system-name) "\n"))'
> localhost.localdomain
> # hostname -f
> sjosefsson-lap
> 
> So the only "random" part that make Message-Id unique are time.  Not
> good, I think.
> 
> (XEmacs 21.2 is the only emacsen on my system that report correct hostname.)

Since message-make-fqdn is not always reliable, should we add a
customizable variable for this?

ShengHuo